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#Post#: 1135--------------------------------------------------
Re: Collective Storages
By: smjjames Date: March 16, 2013, 5:58 pm
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I'll update it as soon as the main map gets back up.
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Re: Collective Storages
By: b-ong Date: March 16, 2013, 6:12 pm
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i thought the point of it was to check to make sure you were
updating on time, not that you could update whenever you
wanted...
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Re: Collective Storages
By: smjjames Date: March 16, 2013, 6:26 pm
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I'm pretty sure that it's just the stuff in storage that
changed, not the main collective storage.
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Re: Collective Storages
By: b-ong Date: March 16, 2013, 9:06 pm
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oh you only log the collective, not the public
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Re: Collective Storages
By: smjjames Date: March 16, 2013, 9:12 pm
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Yeah, it's just that Bla considers all locked chests part of
collective or something or other. Still haven't updated in a
while though.
#Post#: 1224--------------------------------------------------
Re: Collective Storages
By: Bla Date: March 22, 2013, 5:13 pm
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Mudkipz, I have inspected your collective storage, and did not
expect this very big difference from the values (the values I
found are in the 20130316 column). This won't be punished
because of the temporary server mess (although I do think it's
sort of people's own fault when they just refuse to update
whenever they store/withdraw something), plus the fact that
you're moving storage and I therefore don't know if I actually
counted all of it.
But I need to say, you need to clean up the storage. I found
things like coal and gold distributed over three different
chests, same with lapis I think. I'd like to see you finishing
the moving of stuff soon if that's why the values are probably
so far off. Or did you simply not update the collective storage
sheet?
HTML http://i.imgdiode.com/TCIwbm.png
If the values are off, please tell me and make them correct
before tomorrow without storing or withdrawing any items from
the collective if possible. kthxbai.
#Post#: 1229--------------------------------------------------
Re: Collective Storages
By: Mudkipz Date: March 22, 2013, 6:51 pm
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there's like a miniscule amount of gold in the organics/mob drop
chest because i killed a few pigmen
also there is lapis and gold in the special items chest because
they are renamed and not intended for normal use
also there is coal in the mob drop chest because i killed a
wither skelaton
but i've fixed all that now
the special chest category has a bunch of lapis, gold, emeralds,
and other items renamed to a body part. that was a large source
of the error you found. however, they're supposed to be for a
hospital that hasn't been completed yet, so i haven't counted
them (and won't unless you insist).
also on another topic
the collective storage spreadsheet is used to graph what items
are available and who gives how much in a poll.
collective storages are graphed weekly. however, since multiple
months ago, there hasn't been a single poll.
so doesn't it seem that recording all item amounts weekly is
rather inefficient when we can simply record and post the amount
of one item type when a poll comes? i'm nearly 100% sure that i
can post how much of a material i have within 3 days, probably
yqt1001 and smjjames can too (they're on nearly daily).
#Post#: 1231--------------------------------------------------
Re: Collective Storages
By: yqt1001 Date: March 22, 2013, 8:25 pm
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Some 1.5 block changes that Bla might want to add tomorrow:
9 redstone = 1 redstone block
4 single nether brick (smelted from netherrack) = 1 nether brick
block (irreversible)
4 single nether quartz = 1 nether quartz block (irreversible)
#Post#: 1237--------------------------------------------------
Re: Collective Storages
By: Bla Date: March 23, 2013, 4:28 am
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[quote author=Mudkipz link=topic=41.msg1229#msg1229
date=1363996317]
there's like a miniscule amount of gold in the organics/mob drop
chest because i killed a few pigmen
also there is lapis and gold in the special items chest because
they are renamed and not intended for normal use
also there is coal in the mob drop chest because i killed a
wither skelaton
but i've fixed all that now
the special chest category has a bunch of lapis, gold, emeralds,
and other items renamed to a body part. that was a large source
of the error you found. however, they're supposed to be for a
hospital that hasn't been completed yet, so i haven't counted
them (and won't unless you insist).[/quote]
If they're private chests, they're collective storage and have
to be counted.
[quote author=Mudkipz link=topic=41.msg1229#msg1229
date=1363996317]also on another topic
the collective storage spreadsheet is used to graph what items
are available and who gives how much in a poll.[/quote]
It is also used to graph how many items we have so that we have
statistics of our economy.
[quote author=Mudkipz link=topic=41.msg1229#msg1229
date=1363996317]collective storages are graphed weekly. however,
since multiple months ago, there hasn't been a single poll.
so doesn't it seem that recording all item amounts weekly is
rather inefficient when we can simply record and post the amount
of one item type when a poll comes? i'm nearly 100% sure that i
can post how much of a material i have within 3 days, probably
yqt1001 and smjjames can too (they're on nearly daily).[/quote]
It's not really much less efficient to graph it once a week if
you just update the page whenever you store or take out items.
That was my recommended method. If it's too much you could use
the public storage as a buffer for smaller amounts of resources
and store the excesses every once in a while. Graphing it once
pr. month would also make the statistics sort of messy - months
aren't equal in length, and don't start with the same days, so
if we had to graph it every 1st day in a month etc., that could
be on a weekday where I'm often too busy to do it.
[quote author=yqt1001 link=topic=41.msg1231#msg1231
date=1364001915]
Some 1.5 block changes that Bla might want to add tomorrow:
9 redstone = 1 redstone block
4 single nether brick (smelted from netherrack) = 1 nether brick
block (irreversible)
4 single nether quartz = 1 nether quartz block (irreversible)
[/quote]
I've added them all now.
I updated
HTML http://blacraft.wikia.com/wiki/Rules/Law_of_the_Union_of_Blacraft_Socialist_Regions
to make it more clear that by default, all private chests =
collective storage chests => you count them in the Google doc.
If you want exceptions to that rule you must get my permission.
#Post#: 1244--------------------------------------------------
Re: Collective Storages
By: Mudkipz Date: March 23, 2013, 11:09 am
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if we could take apart tools (we can't, but just pretend)
would we poll all enchanted tools in the collective storage,
then take them apart for the diamonds when a poll called for it?
because the stacks of items in one of my collective chests are
supposed to have a use and are significantly harder to obtain
than just the normal stack of defaulty named materials, so if
they were supposed to be used in polls, well it'd be kind of
like the first scenario above.
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