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       #Post#: 2835--------------------------------------------------
       MOOse Front
   DIR By: TheMooCows
       Date: June 14, 2014, 11:40 pm
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       Me and Yqt1001 are starting the MOOse front. Black 2x2 flag. Our
       goal is to eliminate the red front from the map. We propose a
       truce with the blue front while the red front is being attacked.
       TheMooCows will offer his services if blue gets attacked by red
       and yqt1001 might help as well in exchange for this truce. We
       will start conquering zone 32 and go there from there. This
       battle may commence on Friday, 20 June. All battles will be 2v2
       in MOOse Front.
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       Re: MOOse Front
   DIR By: yqt1001
       Date: June 14, 2014, 11:40 pm
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       +1
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       Re: MOOse Front
   DIR By: atomic7732
       Date: June 14, 2014, 11:45 pm
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       I might assist if it is ever decided to not be 2v2 or someone is
       not available if you guys want
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       Re: MOOse Front
   DIR By: Bla
       Date: June 15, 2014, 5:20 am
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       I can't on Friday 20 sorry. I can on Saturday or Sunday if you
       can?
       Why should all battles be 2v2? The more people, the more fun. I
       really think you should open the battles to more people...
       Demanding all battles to be 2v2 really goes against the 'spirit'
       of the battleground imo.
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       Re: MOOse Front
   DIR By: TheMooCows
       Date: June 15, 2014, 5:41 pm
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       I disagree that it would be more fun. With two people you can be
       coordinated and precise, add more people and it gets more
       complicated. Take for example the most recent battle where the
       teams were so confusing that smj and soccer killed each other.
       We might have some 3v3's with atomic and quontex occasionally,
       but atomic doesn't want to be in every battle and quontex has
       scheduling/ping problems. Also I have noticed my ping in
       particular exponentially increases when more people are on, up
       to the point where last battle I had 800 ms ping. So both me and
       yqt agree that 2v2's would be most beneficial. It does not say
       in any of the rules that we cannot restrict to only 2v2, so
       either change the rules or accept it.
       Sat or Sun works fine I think. I will post in the battle
       planning when it comes closer to that date.
       #Post#: 2872--------------------------------------------------
       Re: MOOse Front
   DIR By: Bla
       Date: June 16, 2014, 9:12 am
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       --- Quote from: TheMooCows link ---
       >
       > I disagree that it would be more fun. With two people you can
       be coordinated and precise, add more people and it gets more
       complicated. Take for example the most recent battle where the
       teams were so confusing that smj and soccer killed each other.
       --- End Quote ---
       It was Soccer's first battle and Smj had pretty much forgotten
       the objectives etc. too, plus Smj swapped team and Soccer quit
       the game a bit before the battle started, so this confusion
       seems understandable to me. I haven't experienced one other
       battle where people haven't been aware who was on their teams,
       not the 3v3 ones either, and with a little briefing before the
       battle begins, this should easily be avoidable, so I don't think
       that's a very convincing argument.
       --- Quote from: TheMooCows link ---
       > We might have some 3v3's with atomic and quontex occasionally,
       but atomic doesn't want to be in every battle and quontex has
       scheduling/ping problems. Also I have noticed my ping in
       particular exponentially increases when more people are on, up
       to the point where last battle I had 800 ms ping. So both me and
       yqt agree that 2v2's would be most beneficial. It does not say
       in any of the rules that we cannot restrict to only 2v2, so
       either change the rules or accept it.
       --- End Quote ---
       Is that a challenge lol? ;D Be careful with such rhetoric.
       Well, the rules don't say you can dictate it to be 2v2 either
       --- Quote from: TheMooCows link ---
       > All battles will be 2v2 in MOOse Front.
       --- End Quote ---
       Technically Red Front could for the sake of argument with the
       current rules dictate it to be 1v1, because every team has to
       accept every member. But 1v1 battles would simply be
       exponentially more boring than 2v2, so I'll be kind enough to
       avoid that. Pretty much all other battles we've been trying to
       get as many people as possible to join and that goes in line
       with the intention of the BG being a place for everyone and for
       casuals, so I hadn't really imagined this situation, so maybe
       changing the rules would be worth considering. Anyway, I can see
       the ping argument, hopefully those could be lowered by upgrading
       the server.
       --- Quote from: TheMooCows link ---
       > Sat or Sun works fine I think. I will post in the battle
       planning when it comes closer to that date.
       --- End Quote ---
       Cool.
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       Re: MOOse Front
   DIR By: b-ong
       Date: June 17, 2014, 4:48 pm
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       --- Quote from: atomic7732 link ---
       >
       > I might assist if it is ever decided to not be 2v2 or someone
       is not available if you guys want
       >
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