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       #Post#: 1987--------------------------------------------------
       Rail Line 6 Plan
       By: Bla Date: October 12, 2013, 6:54 pm
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       So a new rail line plan is:
       Spawntown Central Station
       Horse Island
       Kaktice Outpost
       Kaktoquake Cliff
       Aahrus
       Capital
       and from here it branches off to
       Mauritius station 1 (360 , 50 , -660) along z axis
       Mauritius station 2 (280 , 50 , -740) along z axis
       Timbalta (200 , 50 , -1100) along z axis
       Total distance roughly estimated to 1620 meters, which would be
       162 boosters and 3078 rails, which would cost 1158 iron and 162
       gold.
       I'll probably make an UBSR poll for this, but feel free to
       discuss the line now.
       #Post#: 1996--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rail Line 6 Plan
       By: Bla Date: October 13, 2013, 5:21 pm
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       And next time I can get on the server, I'll post this poll, so
       you can sneak up on the voting center and post your vote if you
       want on the first voting floor already.
  HTML http://blacraft.wikia.com/wiki/Blacraft/Kaktoland/Spawntown/Blacraft_Voting_Center/201310132144
       Wikia seems extremely slow atm, but the page says:
       This poll was posted by Blanoxium. It closed on October 17, 2013
       at 00:00 UTC.
       "Should the UBSR collective storages equally (in %) provide 1158
       iron and 162 gold for the 1620 meters plan of rail line 6 from
       Spawntown to Timbalta?"
       #Post#: 2003--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rail Line 6 Plan
       By: yqt1001 Date: October 14, 2013, 10:38 am
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       Just putting this out there that this is essentially a waste of
       resources. Tuto said he would be ok with just modifying the rail
       that runs Aahrus-Desertopia
  HTML http://blacraft.wikia.com/wiki/Blacraft/Kaktoland/Spawntown/Blacraft_Voting_Center/201211092245<br
       />so that he has a station on it. This rail ends 5 blocks from
       Rail Route 5 and transferring is absolutely no problem. The
       route he would take is nearly the exact same as previous
       infrastructure, with only the addition of a station in Timbalta
       and another one in Mauritius.
  HTML https://dl.dropbox.com/s/a995t9tn54s3dol/newrails.png
       As far as the claim that we will need it to expand to any future
       members in that area is also false. Because of Welptopia and
       Vatallus, there is no one but kipz for a good thousand blocks
       north or east of him. Rail Route 5 is much much closer to
       unclaimed territory.
       Not saying we shouldn't do this, but there is a much cheaper
       alternative that is basically the same. This is though, the most
       expensive rail related poll in the Blacraft Voting Centre so we
       need some criticism.
       #Post#: 2004--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rail Line 6 Plan
       By: Bla Date: October 14, 2013, 12:11 pm
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       [quote author=yqt1001 link=topic=163.msg2003#msg2003
       date=1381765098]
       Just putting this out there that this is essentially a waste of
       resources. Tuto said he would be ok with just modifying the rail
       that runs Aahrus-Desertopia
  HTML http://blacraft.wikia.com/wiki/Blacraft/Kaktoland/Spawntown/Blacraft_Voting_Center/201211092245<br
       />so that he has a station on it. This rail ends 5 blocks from
       Rail Route 5 and transferring is absolutely no problem. The
       route he would take is nearly the exact same as previous
       infrastructure, with only the addition of a station in Timbalta
       and another one in Mauritius.[/quote]
       I see - I have no idea where your GLRs run, only where the
       tunnels run, so that would've been useful to know when we walked
       around in the area and planned the rails a few days ago. Anyway
       looking at that I can easily agree that it is a waste of
       resources.
       Anyway, an alternative could be this. We could let it go through
       the ocean instead of through Capital and still have a station in
       western Mauritius, or it could follow Azecliff's coast and go
       below the island there. That [cyan] would shorten the route 420
       meters.
  HTML http://i.imgdiode.com/spK9MZ.png
       We could also consider replacing the GLR with an actual tunnel,
       from Desertopia through Timbalta to Capital, because the route
       itself fits very well into the web plan.
       [quote author=yqt1001 link=topic=163.msg2003#msg2003
       date=1381765098]As far as the claim that we will need it to
       expand to any future members in that area is also false. Because
       of Welptopia and Vatallus, there is no one but kipz for a good
       thousand blocks north or east of him. Rail Route 5 is much much
       closer to unclaimed territory.[/quote]
       I think letting the line go through for example Welptopia and
       Vatallus in the future could be a good idea, there are also
       interesting places worth connecting.
       [quote author=yqt1001 link=topic=163.msg2003#msg2003
       date=1381765098]Not saying we shouldn't do this, but there is a
       much cheaper alternative that is basically the same. This is
       though, the most expensive rail related poll in the Blacraft
       Voting Centre so we need some criticism.[/quote]
       In the end I think the best would be if we expanded the tunnels
       to connect all of Blacraft according to the web plan. Local
       elevated rails or GLR are ok, but I think the rail system would
       be best if it were kept as simple and consistent as possible and
       not make too many different systems. The Nether is by far the
       cheapest alternative, so if we just wanted fast and cheap
       transport we could just set up a portal in Timbalta and make a
       road or rail from there to Capital and Spawntown.
       I guess I'll cancel the poll on the current plan later today
       then. I'd wish this had been posted before I had made the poll.
       #Post#: 2017--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rail Line 6 Plan
       By: Bla Date: October 15, 2013, 12:06 pm
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       The poll closes in about 27 hours, and currently I and smjjames
       have votes for, while none have voted against. I'll close it
       now.
       Please provide feedback on the alternative proposal I made above
       so the situation doesn't repeat.
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