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       no rapture just tribulation and ressurection??
   DIR By: toolebox
       Date: January 20, 2024, 10:32 am
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       Subject: Re: Rapture or tribulation first ??
       Subject: Rapture or tribulation first ??
       IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE, DURING; OR, AFTER THE TRIBULATION PERIOD?
       Question: Will the Church, or as some call it, the Body of
       Christ, be raptured before, during, or after the 7-year
       Tribulation of God’s Judgment? I have heard so many views on
       this.
       Answer: The Church Age began on the Day of Pentecost, over 2,000
       years ago, and will end with the Rapture. The Rapture will begin
       the 7 years of tribulation, which will end with Christ coming to
       the earth and establishing His Kingdom for a 1,000 years. We
       will confine ourselves strictly to the question you have asked.
       I will list some of the false claims and show from Scripture why
       they are not true.
       1. The Post-Tribulation Rapture.
       One false claim is that the Rapture is the same event as the
       coming of Christ at the end of the Tribulation. This has
       confused many, leading them to believe in what is called the
       “Post-Tribulation Rapture.”
       Refutation: First of all, at the Rapture, the saved are “caught
       up” or taken to be with Christ in the air. (1 Thessalonians
       4:16,17). In Matthew, Chapters 24,25, we have Christ coming to
       the earth and judging the nations.
       Matthew 24:40 is used by some, saying it is the Rapture.
       “Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the
       other left.”
       Notice, as we quote Matthew 25:31-34, which makes it perfectly
       clear that this judgment involves 3 things: (1). Christ comes to
       the earth, (2). He will sit on His throne, (3). He will separate
       the saved from the lost.
       “When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy
       angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
       (31) And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall
       separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep
       (saved) from the goats (lost): (32) And he shall set the sheep
       on his right hand, but the goats on the left. ( 33) Then shall
       the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my
       Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation
       of the world.” ( 34)
       Matthew 25:41 tells us what happens to the lost.
       “Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from
       me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and
       his angels:”
       Notice carefully, the difference between the Rapture spoken of
       in 1 Thessalonians 4:16,17 and Christ’s Coming, spoken of in
       Mathew, Chapters 24,25.
       At the Rapture, Christ does not come to the earth, as we are
       caught up to meet Him in the clouds. Whereas, in Matthew, Christ
       comes to the earth to establish His Kingdom. Notice carefully,
       at the Rapture in 1 Thessalonians, the saved are the ones taken
       while the ones left are the lost. Just the opposite takes place
       in Matthew. Those that are taken are the lost; while those that
       are left are the saved who enter into the Kingdom in their
       earthly bodies. Therefore, it is imperative for the Bible
       student to understand that these two events are entirely
       different, being separated by the Seventieth Week of Daniel,
       known as the 7-Year Tribulation Period. Without acknowledging
       the difference between Christ’s coming for his Church and His
       coming to establish the Kingdom; one will only be led into more
       error concerning Bible prophecy.
       Note: A good principle to remember is, whenever Christ’s return
       is spoken of in Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John, it is never the
       Rapture; but, rather, the return of Christ at the conclusion of
       the Tribulation. The Rapture was a mystery, revealed unto the
       Apostle Paul after the Church Age had begun. (Ephesians 3:1-10).
       2. A Pre-Tribulation Rapture Is What The Bible Teaches.
       Now let us examine the proof:
       1 Thessalonians 1:10:
       “And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the
       dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.”
       In examining this verse there are three things we need to
       recognize:
       Paul was writing to Christians (1:1 and 5:25). They were already
       delivered from the wrath of Hell. (John 3:36).
       Notice “which delivered us” is translated in the past tense.
       This is incorrect, as the Greek has it in the future tense. It
       should read as “who delivers us,” or, “which will deliver us.”
       The “wrath to come” is not in reference to Hell; but, rather, to
       the Tribulation Period. Revelation 6:17, “For the great day of
       his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?”
       Therefore, the Christians that are alive at the Rapture will not
       go into the Tribulation, known as the “day of his wrath.” Notice
       the word “us,” which includes all Christians, the spiritual and
       the backslider. As many say, “The Church is not ruptured; but,
       raptured!”
       1 Thessalonians 5:9:
       “For God hath not appointed us to wrath
       (Tribulation wrath, same as 1:10);
       but to obtain salvation
       (i.e., “deliverance”)
       by our Lord Jesus Christ.”
       The Greek word for “salvation” is “SOTERIA” and denotes
       “deliverance, preservation, salvation.” For example: In Acts
       27:34, the word “health” is from the Greek “soteria.” In other
       words, in Verse 33 we find the sailors had gone 14 days without
       eating. In Verse 34 Paul said, “…take ( or eat) some meat: for
       this is for your health," (i.e. "your deliverance") from getting
       sick or dying.
       Also, in Philippians 1:19, “salvation” should have been
       translated “deliverance,” since he was speaking about his
       deliverance from the prison from which he had written to the
       Philippians. A literal translation of Verse 9 would read,
       “For God hath not appointed us (Christians) to the wrath of the
       tribulation, but to obtain deliverance from it, when the Lord
       Jesus Christ comes for His Church.”
       In Chapter 4, verses 13-18, we have the Rapture. Chapter 5
       continues with Christ’s return at the Rapture, assuring all
       Christians that they will be delivered from the Tribulation
       Period.
       3. Spiritual & Carnal all Raptured At the Same Time.
       The following Scriptures refute the erroneous and false teaching
       that only the spiritual Christians will be raptured; while the
       carnal Christians will have to go through the Tribulation. We
       will continue; as we examine and analyze the next verse, 1
       Thessalonians 5:10.
       “Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep; we should live
       together with him (Christ).”
       We will look at 3 important words in the above verse.
       “Wake.”It is the same Greek word “gregoreo” as trans-lated
       “watch” in Verse 6. “Therefore let us not sleep, as do others;
       but let us WATCH and be sober.” “Sleep.” The Greek word for
       “sleep” in Verse 10 is the same as that for “sleep” in Verse 6.
       “Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and
       be sober.” Therefore, sleep is in reference to those Christians
       who are “lying down on the job” and not serving the Lord. Some
       perverted minds try to proclaim that “sleep” here is referring
       to “death.” If that were true—how would you “watch and be sober”
       if you were dead?
       Preposterous!
       “Together.” The Greek word is “hama” and means “to-gether at the
       same time.” (Vine’s Dictionary of New Testament Words).
       Now, let us put Verse 10 together and write it out, including
       the meaning of each of the 3 words we have examined.
       “Who died for us, that, whether we wake (watching and serving
       the Lord)or sleep, we should live together (at the same time)
       with him (Christ).”
       These Scriptures clearly set forth the truth that ALL
       Christians, those serving the Lord and those who are not, will
       be raptured together at the same time.
       4. The Rapture Is The Redemption of Our Body.
       A partial Rapture is Satan’s trickery to lead one to believe
       that you must suffer and/or have good works to complete God’s
       salvation. One must remember that the completion of our
       salvation is the redemption of our bodies! Notice Romans 8:23,
       “…even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the
       adoption, to wit, THE REDEMPTION OF OUR BODY.”
       At the Rapture our salvation is completed. Those who have died,
       receive their resurrected bodies from the grave; while those
       that are alive have their bodies transformed as they go up to be
       with the Lord. (Philippians 3:20,21).
       Those who propagate a partial Rapture have succumbed to Satan’s
       subtlety. (Genesis 3:1 and 2 Corinthians 11:3,13-15). If Satan
       cannot convince you that good works are necessary for salvation;
       then, he will attempt, through his ministers, to con-vince you
       that those that are backslidden must go into the Tribulation.
       Some that hold this view have told me that, this is to have them
       suffer for their disobedience and give them a chance to redeem
       themselves. This, supposedly, shows God they are really
       Christians by now being faithful while being persecuted. Sounds
       good—except it contradicts God’s Word!
       This damnable philosophy denies the Judgment Seat of Christ for
       all Christians, as well as Christ’s completing our salvation by
       His death and Resurrection. Therefore, they do not believe one
       is saved eternally; but, rather, must have good works in order
       to maintain their salvation. Very subtly, they accuse God of
       being a liar and unfaithful to His Word when He promised all
       believers they would “never perish, but have everlasting life.”
       (John 3:16).
       5. Both Spiritual and Carnal Christians Go At The Rapture.
       “Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear
       what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, WE
       shall be like him; for WE shall see him as he is.” (1 John 3:2)
       The “we” is all-inclusive of the spiritual and the carnal
       Christian. No distinction between the two is made here.
       “Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but WE
       shall ALL be changed.” (1 Corinthians 15:51)
       At the Rapture, ALL or every Christian, whether spiritual or
       not, will be changed, i.e., receive their glorified bodies.
       Notice the last 4 words in Verse 52,
       “…and WE shall be changed.”
       The “WE” is all-inclusive of every Christian. Again, a partial
       Rapture philosophy disintegrates in the light of God’s Word. In
       1 Thessalonians 4:17, notice the "WE."
       “Then WE which are alive and remain shall be caught up together
       with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so
       shall we ever be with the Lord.” (1 Thessalonians 4:17)
       Again, the Holy Spirit uses the word “WE,” eliminating any
       distinction between the spiritual and carnal Christian; thus,
       illuminating the false teaching of a partial Rapture.
       6. No Such Thing As A Post-Tribulation Rapture
       Some final thoughts sealing the fate of the philosophy of a
       post-Tribulation Rapture. Follow with me as we look at some
       basic facts:
       All raptured Christians receive their glorified bodies. (Romans
       8:22,23; 1 Corinthians 15:50-54). There are no children born to
       glorified bodies. (Matthew 22:23-30). All unsaved are cast into
       Hell before the 1,000 Year Kingdom Reign of Christ. (Revelation
       19:11-21 and Matthew 25:41).
       If the Rapture is post-Tribulation, several problems arise with
       impossible solutions. (a). Where do the mortal bodies come from
       of those that are born during the Millennium and rebel at the
       conclusion of the Millennium? (Revelation 20:7-10).
       (b). There would be no lost people alive to have children, so
       they cannot come from them.
       (c). All of the saved have their glorified bodies. No children
       can be born to them as a result of a post-Tribulation Rapture.
       (d). Remember, at the end of Christ’s 1,000 Year Reign there are
       unbelievers who will give their allegiance to Satan in an
       attempt to defeat Christ. (Revelation 20:7-10). How did they get
       their human bodies? Placing the Rapture at the end of the
       Tribulation and the start of the Millennium makes an impossible
       situation.
       At the Rapture all Christians have their glorified bodies, which
       do not produce human beings. All the lost are cast into Hell;
       therefore, the philosophy of a post-Tribulation Rapture is
       impossible. The Post-Tribulation Rapture philosophy also leads
       to other false doctrines. Colossians 2:8 is God’s warning
       concerning false teachers,
       “Beware lest any man spoil you through PHILOSOPHY and vain
       deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the
       world, and not after Christ.”
       If a Post-Tribulation Rapture were true; then, the last
       generation alive would be the only generation in over 2,000
       years since the Church Age began, to have to go through the
       Tribulation. Then, we would have to conclude that God is not a
       just God.
       If the Rapture is at the conclusion of the Tribulation; then,
       why are we not told to be praying for “that blessed hope and
       glorious appearing of that blessed tribulation!” Yet, the Word
       of God tells us, in Titus 2:13, that the Christian is to be,
       “Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of
       the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ.”
       Conclusion.
       In conclusion, we shall examine one more proof of a
       Pre-Tribulation Rapture as opposed to a Post-Tribulation
       Rapture. Our text is recorded in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-9.
       Investigating our Text. In Paul’s first epistle to the
       Thessalonians, he mentions Christ’s return at the end of each of
       the five chapters. In Chapter 4:13-18, he goes into great detail
       in describing what occurs at the Rapture. This was a great
       comfort to these Christians, as he advises them in Verse 18,
       “Wherefore COMFORT one another with these words.”
       Sometime later, someone had sent a letter, evidently ascribing
       Paul’s name, and indicated that the Rapture had already taken
       place; whereas, they were left behind. Paul had gotten word of
       this and addressed the issue in his second epistle to the
       Thessalonians, beginning at 2 Thessalonians 2:2.
       “That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by
       (a) spirit, nor by (a) word, nor by (a) letter as from us; as
       that the day of Christ (i.e., LORD) is at hand.”
       The “day of Christ” should be translated “the day of the LORD,”
       which is the correct translation. Distinguishing between,
       The Day of Man (the Church Age),
       The Day of Christ (the Tribulation of 7 years from the Rapture
       to the Revelation of Christ),
       The Day of the LORD (Jehovah) (from the middle of the
       Tribulation to the end of the Millennium),
       ...is imperative to understanding Verse 2.
       Therefore, if the Day of Jehovah was at hand, then the Rapture
       would have already taken place. No wonder they were troubled and
       worried! Paul, in Verse 3, sets the doctrine straight. The Day
       of the LORD was not at hand, as the Rapture and the enthronement
       of the Antichrist as God must take place first. In other words,
       “The letter you received was a forgery and you have not missed
       the Rapture!”
       Then, in 2 Thessalonians 2:5, Paul reminds then,
       “Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you; I told you of
       these things?”
       We now examine 2 Thessalonians 2:3,
       “Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day (day of LORD)
       shall not come, except there come a falling away (departure)
       first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.”
       We are now introduced to the Greek word “apostasia” which is
       translated as “falling away” in the King James Translation. The
       basic meaning of the word is “departure.” One cannot tell from
       the meaning of the word, itself, whether it is in reference to
       the departure, i.e., the Rapture of the Church; or, a “departure
       from the truth,” known as apostasy. “Apostasia” translated as
       “falling away” is quite misleading; as it does not incorporate
       the meaning “to fall” or “fell.” For example, check Matthew
       10:29 (“fall”); Matthew 17:6 (“fell”); John 18:6 (“fell”), etc.
       These are translated from the Greek word “pipto,” not
       “apostasia.” Therefore, only by the context in which “apostasia”
       occurs can it be determined if it is in reference to a departure
       from the faith; or the departure of the Church from the world.
       It should be noted, that to the best of my knowledge, all
       English translations prior to the King James Translation
       translated “apostasia” either as “departing” or “departure.”
       Also, the Bible known as the Vulgate, about 400 A.D., was
       Jerome’s Latin translation. Here Jerome uses the Latin word
       “discessio”, meaning “departure” for “apostasia.”
       With this in mind, one can see that this is in perfect harmony
       with Verse 1, which speaks of the Rapture.
       “Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus
       Christ, and by our gathering together unto him.”
       (The Rapture).
       This is the same as Paul had previously spoken about in 1
       Thessalonians 4:17 concerning the Rapture.
       “Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together
       with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so
       shall we ever be with the Lord.”
       In 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17, Paul gives the principles of the
       Rapture; whereas, in 2 Thessalonians 2, he gives the procedure
       concerning the Rapture, which is Pre-Tribulation.
       May we make a few more observations which lead us to conclude
       that “apostasia” in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 is speaking of the
       Church departing from the earth, raptured to meet her Savior in
       the clouds; and not a departure from the faith.
       (1). Notice in Verse 7,
       “For the mystery of iniquity doth already work.”
       Paul states that apostasy from the faith was already present.
       Hymenaeus and Alexander were two of them. (1 Timothy 1:19,20).
       There were false teachers of the law. (1 Timothy 1:4-7). False
       teachings concerning the Resurrection. (2 Timothy 2:16-18). Read
       Jude; 1 John 2:18; 2 Peter 2:1-3; 1 John 4:1-3, and we could go
       on and on.
       In other words, since the offspring of Adam and Eve, there has
       always been apostasy from the faith. What do we attribute the
       Flood to? In Israel there were the false prophets and priests.
       It was the same at the time of Christ; and ever since, to the
       present. Therefore, it would be ludicrous to think that
       “apostasia” in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 was in reference to “apostasy
       from the faith,” when there has never been a time when apostasy
       has not been with us.
       #Post#: 12--------------------------------------------------
       Re: no rapture just tribulation and ressurection??
   DIR By: toolebox
       Date: January 20, 2024, 10:33 am
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       It should be noted, that to the best of my knowledge, all
       English translations prior to the King James Translation
       translated “apostasia” either as “departing” or “departure.”
       Also, the Bible known as the Vulgate, about 400 A.D., was
       Jerome’s Latin translation. Here Jerome uses the Latin word
       “discessio”, meaning “departure” for “apostasia.”
       With this in mind, one can see that this is in perfect harmony
       with Verse 1, which speaks of the Rapture.
       “Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus
       Christ, and by our gathering together unto him.”
       (The Rapture).
       This is the same as Paul had previously spoken about in 1
       Thessalonians 4:17 concerning the Rapture.
       “Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together
       with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so
       shall we ever be with the Lord.”
       In 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17, Paul gives the principles of the
       Rapture; whereas, in 2 Thessalonians 2, he gives the procedure
       concerning the Rapture, which is Pre-Tribulation.
       May we make a few more observations which lead us to conclude
       that “apostasia” in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 is speaking of the
       Church departing from the earth, raptured to meet her Savior in
       the clouds; and not a departure from the faith.
       (1). Notice in Verse 7,
       “For the mystery of iniquity doth already work.”
       Paul states that apostasy from the faith was already present.
       Hymenaeus and Alexander were two of them. (1 Timothy 1:19,20).
       There were false teachers of the law. (1 Timothy 1:4-7). False
       teachings concerning the Resurrection. (2 Timothy 2:16-18). Read
       Jude; 1 John 2:18; 2 Peter 2:1-3; 1 John 4:1-3, and we could go
       on and on.
       In other words, since the offspring of Adam and Eve, there has
       always been apostasy from the faith. What do we attribute the
       Flood to? In Israel there were the false prophets and priests.
       It was the same at the time of Christ; and ever since, to the
       present. Therefore, it would be ludicrous to think that
       “apostasia” in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 was in reference to “apostasy
       from the faith,” when there has never been a time when apostasy
       has not been with us.
       Therefore, how would the Thessalonians recognize any apostasy
       different from the apostasy that already existed, and that has
       always existed in one way or another. From the context, itself,
       we know the “apostasia” in Verse 3 is not in reference to
       departure from the faith, already existent; but, rather, a
       departure of the Church from the world, or the Rapture. Apostasy
       already existed as stated in Verse 7,
       “For the mystery of iniquity doth already work…”
       We have the same false teachers today, advocating a Partial or a
       Post-Tribulation Rapture, as those believers in Thessalonica
       encountered over 1900 years ago. As we have stated previously,
       the Christian is admonished to be “Looking for that blessed
       hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior
       Jesus Christ,” NOT, “the blessed hope and glorious appearing of
       the Tribulation Period! (The Day of God’s Wrath.).
       A final note. Many are not aware that the Roman Catholic Church
       does not believe in the Rapture. Also, the Evangelistic Lutheran
       Churches of America (ELCA); the Missouri Synod Lutherans, and
       the Wisconsin Lutheran Synod deny three basic prophetic
       doctrines: (1). They deny the Rapture, (2). They do not believe
       in the Restoration of the Nation of Israel, (3). They deny the
       literal reign of Christ in his earthly Kingdom on earth for
       1,000 years. How did they come to these conclusions, denying
       major portions of the Word of God? Very simple. Their teachings
       were founded by a man named Martin Luther, who has been dead
       over 460 years! (Luther, 1483-1546). Maybe they are not familiar
       with the middle verse of the Bible, Psalm 118:8,
       “It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in
       man.”
       Response stopped
       The question of whether the rapture occurs before or after the
       tribulation is a topic of debate among Christians. According to
       the NeverThirsty Bible, the tribulation is a well-defined period
       of time that lasts for seven years, while the rapture occurs
       unexpectedly prior to the tribulation period 1. The Revelation
       Study Guide states that the doctrine of the pre-tribulation
       rapture teaches that before the worst aspects of the Last Days
       begin, the followers of Christ will be caught up (raptured) to
       meet the Lord in the air and will not experience the persecution
       of God’s people known as the Great Tribulation 2.
       However, there are also biblical passages that suggest that the
       rapture will occur after the tribulation period. For example,
       Revelation 6:10-11; 7:3-4, 13-14 would seem to indicate that the
       rapture does not occur before the tribulation 1.
       In summary, the timing of the rapture is a matter of
       interpretation and there is no consensus among Christians.
       Rapture not in English version of Bible- john 14;3 or 1
       Thessalonians 4;16-18
       13;35-36After rapture 7 years tribulation, God will have to
       end after first 3.5 years as no one will be left if he did not
       ??  1 Timothy 4:1, titus 2;13
       1 Corinthians 4;5- 3:4  ( 15;51-52)
       Philippians  3;20- 4;5
       James 5;8-9
       Hebrews 9:28
       In life, death and ressure3ction of Jesus Christ  - over 300 old
       testament prophecies fulfilled
       1 Thessalonians  1;7-8, 1;10, 2;1-2, 2;19, 3;5, 3;13, 4;16,
       5;23,
       mark 13;35-36
       revelation 4;1-3 ( chapters 6-19), during tribulation
       matthe2ws 24;37-44, 1 Thessalonians 4;16-18
       My Understanding??
       Many interpretations of end of time, shows Jesus Rapture's saved
       , then 7 years tribulation?? First 3.5 years tribulation
       Antichrist rules Israel with false prophet, but God will have
       Jesus Christ end it, before no one left to save- just like
       previous Roman Empire he had to end, and king David will be back
       ruling until Jesus brings heaven down after Armagedón.
       It states Jesus will rule for 1000 years, 2while Satan pinned
       down,  but I believe it will be last part of 7 years tribulation
       with Kind David ruling then under him advice
       Jesus will bring down heaven 1400 square miles to earth and take
       reign from king David and God will be here on earth with us.
       Babylon is being rebuilt at this time with about 240,000 people
       there, and already raising new buildings to take over, and
       raising money for others. this is again where Satan will rule
       thru false prophet and antichrist in Israel again under roman
       empire. But many in first will not take part in second, as Egypt
       will be taken over and controlled befo9re this happens.
       antichrist Daniel 7;19-27, shall appear- son of righteousness
       Matthew 4;1-6
       The kingdom Daniel 7;13-14, Isiah 2;1-3, Micha 4;1-2,
       Destruction of earth by fire  2 peter 3;7-13
       New heavens and earth- Isiah 65;17, 66;22, Revelation 21;1
       Antichrist Zechariah 11;15-17, Armagedón Zechariah 14;1-3
       Begins tribulation Daniel 9;27
       Matthew 24;21, 24;13
       Second Phase revelation 20;4
       Tribulation, Juda nations, Millennial kingdom
       End of tribulation revelation 20;1-3, 19;20, 20;10, Daniel
       2,7,8,9, revelation 2-20, Mtthew 24-25,
       Mark 134, Luke 21: 20-24
       Jesus begins tribulation Matthew 24;9, revelation 4-19, ½
       Matthew 24;9-14, 2nd half  15-26
       Worse time in history of man - revelation 6-19
       Matthew 24;27-31, revelation 19;11-16
       Rapture? another tribulation verse 29,30
       Matthew 25;31-46
       2 Thessalonians 2-3 Pretribulation >>?  is it now ??
       Failing away99 society and faith right now) ?
       1st century revelation 2-3 apostolic age?
       Church will come to abrupt end at rapture ??  John 14;1-3;1, 1
       corthians 15;51-51, 1 Thessalonians 4;13-18
       Revelation 13;11-18
       ?? Church has no earthly prophetic destiny beyond Rapture3
       revelation 4;1-3
       church last days 1 timothy 4;1-3, 2 timothy 3;1-5, 4;3-4, James
       5;1-8, 2 peter 2;1-22, 3;3-6 Jude 1-25
       before tribulation begins ?? 1 Thessalonians 1;10, 5;9,
       revelation 3;10, John 14;1-3, Church New Testament removed  by
       rapture
       In heaven revelation 4;4, o-11, 7;13-14, 19;4, 19;14, 10;19,
       revelation 19;7
       revelation 13;17-18 ( true church of Jesus Christ not go thru
       tribulation ??
       Members rule Revelation 3;21, Matthew 19;28, 2 timothy 2;12
       Events of rapture John 14;1-3, 1 Thessalonians 4;16, 4;14, 4;17,
       1 corthians 10;52, 15;51-53
       revelation 11;15, Romans 14;10, 2 corthians 5;10, 1 corthians
       3;11-15
       Great wrath tribulation  Mathew 24;21
       Rapture passages  ??  John 14;1-3 1 corthians 1;7-8, 15;51-53,
       16;22, Romans 8;19, Philippines 3;20,-23, 4;45, 1 Thessalonians
       1;10, 2;19, 4;13-18, 5;9, 23, 2;1, 1 timothy 6;14, 2 timothy
       4;1-8, Titus 2;13, Hebrews 9;28, James 5;7-9, 1 peter 5;4, 1
       john 2;28-3;2, Jude 1.21 revelation 2;25 Second coming Daniel
       2;44-45, 7;9-14, 12;1-3, zecharia 14;1-5, matthew 13.41,
       2415-31, 26;69, mark 13;14-27, 14;62, luke 21;25-28, acts
       1;9-11, 3;19-21, 1 thessalonians 3;13, 2;6-10, 2 thessalomians
       2;8, 1 peter 4;12-13, 3;1-14, Jude 1;14-15, revelation 1;7
       , 1;7, 19;11-20;6, 22;7, 12;20
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