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Emergency Act brought in to stop protests
DIR By: caretaker
Date: February 15, 2022, 8:50 am
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It isn't the War Measures Act that Pierre Trudeau used in 1970,
but it's the one we have:
HTML https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/trudeau-makes-history-invokes-emergencies-act-to-address-trucker-protests-1.5780283
Almost a month into a protest that was supposed to last a
weekend, after a city has been under siege and border crossings
have been shut down disrupting trade and manufacturing at huge
expense, a movement wishing to overthrow the government and
largely funded by donations from the USA is being challenged.
After the Act was announced, 2 more crossings into Sweetgrass,
Montana and Pembina, North Dakota were blockaded.
As usual, The Beaverton nailed it:
HTML https://thebeaverton.com/2022/02/peaceful-guns-democratic-machetes-seized-from-alberta-convoy-protest/
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Re: Emergency Act brought in to stop protests
DIR By: Siouxie
Date: February 15, 2022, 10:58 am
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I don't think the initial impetus was for anything other than a
contingent of truckers wanting the new mandated requirements for
Truck drivers crossing the border rescinded, but a lot of other
factions jumped on the bandwagon, sadly.
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Re: Emergency Act brought in to stop protests
DIR By: Dakota44
Date: February 15, 2022, 11:33 am
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The sad thing is that the idiots blocking border crossings and
occupying Ottawa etc, seem unconcerned about the damage done to
businesses and their employees by their little tantrum. Nor do
they seem to recognize that they have become reviled by most of
the country. The government going after their money and their
licenses and rigs is better late than never.
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Re: Emergency Act brought in to stop protests
DIR By: macliam
Date: February 15, 2022, 11:34 am
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--- Quote from: Siouxie link ---
>
> I don't think the initial impetus was for anything other than
a contingent of truckers wanting the new mandated requirements
for Truck drivers crossing the border rescinded, but a lot of
other factions jumped on the bandwagon, sadly.
>
--- End Quote ---
It's what happens...... sadly indeed. There are always those
looking for a platform, any platform.
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Re: Emergency Act brought in to stop protests
DIR By: caretaker
Date: February 15, 2022, 11:38 am
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--- Quote from: Siouxie link ---
>
> I don't think the initial impetus was for anything other than
a contingent of truckers wanting the new mandated requirements
for Truck drivers crossing the border rescinded, but a lot of
other factions jumped on the bandwagon, sadly.
>
--- End Quote ---
Wasn't the mandate reciprocal to the US mandate, so they were
protesting what they would have to do if returning from a
country they couldn't get into in the first place? True about
every wacko joining in, but considering the organisers' ties to
white power groups it shouldn't have been a surprise; most of
the same players that hijacked the yellow vest protests, plus a
ton of anti-Trudeau that want a shout after losing the election.
The diagram would show the protesters who are people of colour
and the religious zealots intersecting with the klansmen and
military cosplayers. Lots of inclusion which also facilitates
denial. "We aren't anti-vax because 90% of us are vaccinated.
We aren't white supremacists because there are lots of brown
people with us. We just want our freedom back." The other
essential services haven't taken to the barricades, and they
don't support these bozos at all. The protesters all seem to be
fairly obvious, a click away on youtube, but the victims are a
little more anonymous. We've seen counter-protesters in Ottawa
and read about the auto industry having to partially shut down,
but the time sensitive freight like meat and produce and
livestock stopped or slowed at the border will cost the
producers, the receivers, and the people transporting it. The
opposition parties have just been coasting along (what else
could they do?) but there should be a response in the news
already. It's a happy ;D medium between letting it drag on
and calling the army out. Forcing the tow truck owners to haul
away protest rigs is going to generate some backlash, but still
better than bringing in tank wreckers from army bases. It's
safe to assume that most blockading/occupying truckers will go
home rather than face the penalties, but there will be holdouts.
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Re: Emergency Act brought in to stop protests
DIR By: Dakota44
Date: February 15, 2022, 11:42 am
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Correct on the U.S. restriction. An example, in my mind, of how
ignorant their claims are.
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Re: Emergency Act brought in to stop protests
DIR By: Siouxie
Date: February 15, 2022, 12:12 pm
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Apparently 'peaceful protests' are ok in other countries, just
not in Canada.. (not saying I agree with the current situation..
it's just an observation about how politicians will play their
games)
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HTML https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55152462
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> India has denounced Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's
"ill-informed" remarks regarding an ongoing farmers' protest in
India's capital.
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> Mr Trudeau and Conservative opposition leader Erin O'Toole
both made comments this week expressing concern over India's
response to the demonstrations.
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> "Canada will always be there to defend the right of peaceful
protest," Mr Trudeau said on Monday.
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> Thousands of farmers have travelled to Delhi to protest
agricultural reforms.
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> Protesters were met last week with barricades at Delhi's
border and clashes erupted between farmers and police.
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> Photos and video of the encounters show scenes of authorities
deploying tear gas and water cannons to stop the farmers from
entering the city.
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Re: Emergency Act brought in to stop protests
DIR By: caretaker
Date: February 15, 2022, 12:59 pm
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--- Quote from: Siouxie link ---
>
> Apparently 'peaceful protests' are ok in other countries, just
not in Canada.. (not saying I agree with the current situation..
it's just an observation about how politicians will play their
games.
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If Trudeau had tried to do what Modi did in denying the
protesters access to the capital, it would have been seen as
denying them their right to protest, and democracy must be seen
to be.... wait, that's justice. Also would have looked bad to
break into trucks and yank the kids out then pepper spray or
tase whoever's left into jail. This way, nice and legal, lots
of warning, is what they're hoping separates our government from
the real dictators. Try pulling a stunt like this in Russia or
China or North Korea (and far too many more places) and you'd be
in a can of trouble.
When the assembly line stops in an auto factory it costs big
money for every minute it's down. Shutting down entire shifts
and canceling production runs of some models would lose
tremendous potential profits. Think Biden mentioned this to
Trudeau on the phone? No pressure, but.....
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Re: Emergency Act brought in to stop protests
DIR By: Monsieur Rioux
Date: February 16, 2022, 8:15 am
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--- Quote from: caretaker link ---
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> True about every wacko joining in, but considering the
organisers' ties to white power groups it shouldn't have been a
surprise
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As demonstrated by the gofundme page being dropped at the
beginning of the month, some time before many realised what was
really happening.
Love that Beaverton piece :D
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Re: Emergency Act brought in to stop protests
DIR By: caretaker
Date: February 16, 2022, 8:48 am
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Last week the Ottawa Chief of Police became flustered during an
interview when a reporter asked if bylaws prohibiting
stockpiling diesel and propane in the open could be enforced in
order to deny the convoy fuel, and he went off on a tangent
vehemently denying that police were aiding the protest by
helping them get fuel (no one had suggested that). I think he
would have been better off stating the need for more resources.
Under fire from the public and the mayor, he said his priority
was to reduce the chance of violence through every step of the
occupation,and in that respect he succeeded. By the time the
press conference made the circuit of news programs his speech
was paired with footage of carts containing jerrycans rolling
past Ottawa police who appeared to take no interest. This
morning the chief has resigned and his deputy is in charge.
Since the Oka Crisis and Clayquot logging, Ipperwash, and the
pipeline protests and numerous other times when public protest
has shut down access or transport, Canadians have become sort of
familiar with how it works; depending on how valid the group's
complaints are, they receive varying amounts of public support,
and depending on how much their protest affects infrastructure,
the law uses some discretion in how they deal with it. A
picture of a soldier face to face with Mohawk activist Lasagna
on the road at Oka defined what can happen when force is used
against people with a legitimate grievance and huge public
support. The highways and train tracks were shut down across
the country in a rotating show of sympathy. (Mind you, Oka was
about a nasty mayor who wanted to build an extra 9 holes onto
the golf course, on top of a native graveyard, The town of Oka
was divided, but the country was pretty much behind the
Indians). Jean Chretien's light-hearted dismissal of cops
pepper spraying protesters at the APEC conference in '97
probably wouldn't get on the air today, especially paired with
footage of them using the big quart bottles.
Accepting the resignation from Ottawa's Chief of Police after
authorising the 1,800 extra law enforcement personell he needed
at the start doesn't seem right, and I wouldn't be surprised if
there is a call to review that action.
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