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       Re: Ukraine
       By: caretaker Date: April 6, 2022, 10:00 am
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       This fellow is being fairly frank:
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41wft1daADg
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       Re: Ukraine
       By: macliam Date: April 6, 2022, 4:14 pm
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       [quote author=caretaker link=topic=155.msg5048#msg5048
       date=1649257207]
       This fellow is being fairly frank:
       [/quote]
       Guy Verhofstadt is an astute politician and accurate predictor
       of political events. He does not have a reputation for holding
       back.
       In 2013, 3 years before the Brexit referendum, he said "Brexit
       is stupidity for a country with 53 percent of its exports going
       to the Continent and to the rest of Europe. It’s even so stupid
       that Britain’s best friends, the United States, don’t understand
       it all"
       In 2016, before the referendum, he said "The only winners from a
       Brexit would be Nigel Farage and Vladimir Putin; who would
       relish a divided Europe."
       In 2016, after the referendum, he said "Politically, the UK is
       already on its way to becoming an adversary, rather than a
       trusted partner, of the EU… pro-Brexit politicians… rejoice at
       the possibility of additional exit referenda across the EU.”
       In 2018 he tweeted an accusation that Farage had been funded
       with "Kremlin money and that Aaron Banks had "colluded with the
       Russians to deliver Brexit”.
       Oddly, the Brexiteers didn't like him much.......
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       Re: Ukraine
       By: caretaker Date: April 7, 2022, 9:44 am
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       Map of the war April 7:  There is a lot of border there with no
       friends on the other side.  Allocation of resources is going to
       be crucial in countering Russian drives from the South, East,
       and North-East.  Every movement of troops and weapons is risky.
       [attachimg=1]
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       Re: Ukraine
       By: jsmth321 Date: April 8, 2022, 3:01 am
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       Russia seems to want some compassion for the loss of life their
       troops have seen, well Russia you could have totally prevented
       100% of the Russian deaths had you not invaded another country.
       “We have significant losses of troops and it’s a huge tragedy
       for us,” Peskov admitted, before claiming the reason for
       Russia’s withdrawal from the Kyiv and Chernihiv regions was “an
       act of goodwill during the negotiations between the Ukrainian
       and Russian delegations.”
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       Re: Ukraine
       By: caretaker Date: April 8, 2022, 8:45 am
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       "We need other weapons:
       air defence systems and combat aircraft
       Long-Range Artillery Missile complexes, MLRS and heavy artillery
       tanks and AVs
       anti-ship missiles
       reconnaissance and strike drones.
       2/3"
  HTML https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1512398208374382597
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       Re: Ukraine
       By: caretaker Date: April 11, 2022, 9:43 am
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       A team of French investigators is cataloging evidence of war
       crimes in Bucha, Peskov soils the bed in an interview with Mark
       Austin on Sky News, S&P says Russia's economy is in default,
       Azov Battalion fighters are among the last defenders in Mariupol
       (and they are running out of ammunition and supplies), and
       Russia appears to be winding up for a big attack.
       [attachimg=1]
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       Re: Ukraine
       By: caretaker Date: April 14, 2022, 8:49 am
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       Mariupol continues to hold out even though over a thousand
       Ukrainian soldiers were captured, a train track next to a bridge
       in Russia was blown up inconveniencing movement of
       reinforcements (though I think it will only take a few days to
       fix), and weapons for Ukraine both real and promised continue to
       pour in ahead of the next big expected Russian advance.  The
       news yesterday was Russian cruiser Moskva catching fire and
       having to be towed back to port.  Russia claims some ammunition
       exploded on board and started a fire, and exploding munitions
       and bad weather hampered efforts to put it out.  Ukraine claims
       they launched 2 Neptune anti-ship missiles at it and one hit.
       Vision TV has been airing the comedy Servant of the People
       starring Zelensky, with cameo appeals for support in the
       commercial breaks.  It looks like it's probably funny, but the
       subtitles are hard to read and keep it from working.  Youtube,
       however, has it with the subtitles on black background so I'll
       have to download some at work soon.
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       Re: Ukraine
       By: zzrmark Date: April 14, 2022, 5:49 pm
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       The Moskva has sunk.
       Ukraine says they hit it with a couple of Neptunes, Russia says
       that it was a just a fire in a munitions area. Whichever is
       true, it's a trifle embarrassing to lose one of your largest
       pieces of hardware in the middle of a conflict zone that you've
       initiated.
       Is it really less embarrassing to declare to the international
       community that your protocols on board are so shoddy that you
       lost a premium bit of kit?
       More porkies from the Russian propaganda machine methinks. No
       excrement, Sherlock.
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       Re: Ukraine
       By: caretaker Date: April 14, 2022, 6:21 pm
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       [quote author=zzrmark link=topic=155.msg5130#msg5130
       date=1649976567]
       The Moskva has sunk.
       Ukraine says they hit it with a couple of Neptunes, Russia says
       that it was a just a fire in a munitions area. Whichever is
       true, it's a trifle embarrassing to lose one of your largest
       pieces of hardware in the middle of a conflict zone that you've
       initiated.
       Is it really less embarrassing to declare to the international
       community that your protocols on board are so shoddy that you
       lost a premium bit of kit?
       More porkies from the Russian propaganda machine methinks. No
       excrement, Sherlock.
       [/quote]
       The pictures of it show the deck covered in tubes of cruise
       missiles, so what could go wrong?  I like the notion that
       Ukrainian Boy Scouts light a fire by rubbing 2 rockets together.
       ;D
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       Re: Ukraine
       By: Dakota44 Date: April 14, 2022, 8:25 pm
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