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Re: Ukraine
By: Expatrick Date: March 20, 2022, 9:33 am
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[quote author=caretaker link=topic=155.msg4894#msg4894
date=1647778949]
They can hit the North American mainland any time they want, in
less time than it takes to cook breakfast. That has been a fact
for most of my life. Submarines carrying missiles with nuclear
warheads are positioned (on both sides) to deliver the first
strikes, and the deterrent is Mutually Assured Destruction.
[/quote]
Russia & the US are not going to start lobbing ICBMs at each
other. That's not the risk. The risk is as outlined by Macliam
below.
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Re: Ukraine
By: caretaker Date: March 20, 2022, 10:01 am
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[quote author=Expatrick link=topic=155.msg4902#msg4902
date=1647786810]
Russia & the US are not going to start lobbing ICBMs at each
other. That's not the risk. The risk is as outlined by Macliam
below.[/quote]
Well thank goodness for that! All you have to do then is hope
there aren't any accidents causing Hungary to declare war on
Russia. Maybe get a treaty signed by both nations that they
agree not to invade each other, and thus avoid Russia having to
de-Nazify Hungary.
Meanwhile, in Ukraine, Mariupol residents who were hoping to be
taken elsewhere are reported by city council to have been bused
to Russia against their will:
"Captured Mariupol residents were taken to camps where Russian
forces checked their phones and documents, the city council
said, and then were redirected to remote Russian cities."
HTML https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-19-22/h_2e9c8826cd040f8dd4d8a21c5b3b6283
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Re: Ukraine
By: caretaker Date: March 20, 2022, 10:39 am
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On RT (the United Russia Party official organ), every article
about Ukraine has this paragraph at the bottom:
Russia launched its military operation in Ukraine late last
month, following a seven-year standoff over Kiev's failure to
implement the terms of the Minsk agreements, and Russia's
eventual recognition of the breakaway Donbass republics of
Donetsk and Lugansk. German- and French-brokered protocols had
been designed to regularize the status of those regions within
the Ukrainian state.
Russia has now demanded that Ukraine officially declare itself a
neutral country that will never join the US-led NATO military
bloc. Kiev insists the Russian offensive was completely
unprovoked and has denied claims it had been planning to retake
the two republics by force.
They cut off their comments section some time ago, leaving only
Tolstoy Comments on Telegram. No surprises in there.
HTML https://www.rt.com/news/
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Re: Ukraine
By: jsmth321 Date: March 20, 2022, 11:34 am
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[quote author=caretaker link=topic=155.msg4894#msg4894
date=1647778949]
They can hit the North American mainland any time they want, in
less time than it takes to cook breakfast. That has been a fact
for most of my life. Submarines carrying missiles with nuclear
warheads are positioned (on both sides) to deliver the first
strikes, and the deterrent is Mutually Assured Destruction.
[/quote]
Hypersonic missiles change the game too, can't really detect
them, can't really track them, can't stop them.
Russia has apparently according to reports yesterday used
hypersonic missiles on Ukraine.
HTML https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/north-america-vulnerable-to-russian-and-chinese-hypersonic-weapons-norad-commander-1.5825995
US doesn't know if Russia or China have hypersonic nukes yet
though.
MAD in theory is a good reasoning, but seems MAD would require
both sides to be sane and logical and Putin seems to not be so
logical and I am not confident he is fully sane either based on
some of his speaches.
US is behind China and Russia in developing this sort of weapon
as it was never a high priority for military funding.
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Re: Ukraine
By: jsmth321 Date: March 20, 2022, 12:07 pm
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Russia is reaching new lows with this war.
Looks like they have resorted to to capturing civilians and
relocating them to remote parts of Russia.
"Captured residents( of Mariupol) were taken to camps where
Russian forces checked their phones and documents, the council
said. They were then redirected to remote Russian cities. "
This is according to the local city government of Mariupol.
China’s Foreign Minister Wang Yi on Sunday said “time will prove
that China's position is on the right side of history” over the
Ukraine war.
He went on to say “the long-term solution is to abandon the Cold
War mentality, refrain from engaging in group confrontation, and
truly form a balanced, effective and sustainable regional
security architecture. Only in this way can long-term stability
on the European continent be achieved.”
China’s Vice Foreign Minister Le Yucheng said yesterday that
Western countries were "weaponizing" globalization.
But it seems to be more about causing China to lose money.
"Sanctions will only harm ordinary people, impact the post-war
economic and financial system, and make the world economy
worse," Le said at the International Forum on Strategy and
Security held by Tsinghua University.
He also went on to blame NATO for going back on it's promise not
to expand east.
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Re: Ukraine
By: caretaker Date: March 21, 2022, 5:43 pm
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A reporter's experiences in Mariupol:
HTML https://globalnews.ca/news/8698612/ukraine-war-mariupol-russia-journalists/
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Re: Ukraine
By: caretaker Date: March 22, 2022, 8:26 am
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Although the official Russian body count is supposed to be kept
low or secret, they have apparently slipped up:
"Russia’s ministry of defence appeared to inadvertently reveal
that nearly 10,000 of its soldiers have been killed in Ukraine."
HTML https://leaderpost.com/news/world/russian-defence-ministry-lets-slip-that-almost-10000-soldiers-have-been-killed-in-ukraine/wcm/a61b7377-23f7-4196-b6fc-4c529d86e7db
Bringing reinforcements from Kamchatka and Vladivostok could
have several advantages for the Russians. If the troops are
locals they may be less likely to have relatives in Ukraine or
be sympathetic towards them for other reasons (some Chechyns
jumped ship and they won't want a repeat of that), they may have
had less exposure to news from the west or maybe because they
are Naval Infantry Marines they're harder than the rest and less
likely to surrender, or they're being moved just for an
amphibious assault. Once the train is put together and leaves
Vladivostok there will probably be satellite pictures giving an
indication of how large the relief force is and what it is
composed of. RT isn't reporting on it.
"Four landing ship tanks, including one with its deck full of
military trucks, were seen sailing in the Pacific Ocean
westbound in the middle of last week, according to a news
release from the Joint Staff’s Public Affairs office within
Japan’s Defense Ministry."
HTML https://news.yahoo.com/japan-spots-russian-amphibious-ships-161608407.html
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Re: Ukraine
By: jsmth321 Date: March 22, 2022, 9:30 am
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I'll tell ya those war time reporters are brave souls.
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Re: Ukraine
By: caretaker Date: March 22, 2022, 11:32 am
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[quote author=jsmth321 link=topic=155.msg4924#msg4924
date=1647959441]
I'll tell ya those war time reporters are brave souls.
[/quote]
They are dedicated to their craft and some of them lose their
lives at work. I think most of the veteran press we have here
in Canada have done their stint in war zones, and the newer ones
continue the tradition. Unlike the report from the journalist I
linked to above, the main network reporters have been moved back
from city to city, and as danger increases eventually over the
border into Poland or to one of the western European capitals.
It wasn't that long ago CBC's Briar Stewart was covering local
news in Saskatoon and then she started showing up doing remotes
in helmet and flak vest. She'll probably go on to be a
national news anchor some day.
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Re: Ukraine
By: macliam Date: March 22, 2022, 8:06 pm
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[quote author=caretaker link=topic=155.msg4922#msg4922
date=1647955596]
Although the official Russian body count is supposed to be kept
low or secret, they have apparently slipped up:
"Russia’s ministry of defence appeared to inadvertently reveal
that nearly 10,000 of its soldiers have been killed in Ukraine."
HTML https://leaderpost.com/news/world/russian-defence-ministry-lets-slip-that-almost-10000-soldiers-have-been-killed-in-ukraine/wcm/a61b7377-23f7-4196-b6fc-4c529d86e7db
Bringing reinforcements from Kamchatka and Vladivostok could
have several advantages for the Russians. If the troops are
locals they may be less likely to have relatives in Ukraine or
be sympathetic towards them for other reasons (some Chechyns
jumped ship and they won't want a repeat of that), they may have
had less exposure to news from the west or maybe because they
are Naval Infantry Marines they're harder than the rest and less
likely to surrender, or they're being moved just for an
amphibious assault. Once the train is put together and leaves
Vladivostok there will probably be satellite pictures giving an
indication of how large the relief force is and what it is
composed of. RT isn't reporting on it.
"Four landing ship tanks, including one with its deck full of
military trucks, were seen sailing in the Pacific Ocean
westbound in the middle of last week, according to a news
release from the Joint Staff’s Public Affairs office within
Japan’s Defense Ministry."
HTML https://news.yahoo.com/japan-spots-russian-amphibious-ships-161608407.html
[/quote]
I used your quoted articles elsewhere and credited them, but
without naming you - I hope that's OK. I thought it was
important to share them as nobody else had, but equally I
understand that you are no longer active yourself. So not
wanting to take thecredit for your
work.
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