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       #Post#: 4559--------------------------------------------------
       Re: bcEconomy re-work?
   DIR By: village_lunatic
       Date: May 23, 2013, 5:48 am
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       Loosing materials to clag is a separate issue.  I know you don't
       think it is, but it is.  It's two different exploitation
       problems that don't necessarily have the same answer.
       What you're referring to is things like the stripped desserts..
       yes?  Loosing materials to clag isn't a real big deal, if it
       doesn't destroy the map.  A good example is the huge sugarcane
       farm Asteria has.  We can mow it down, throw away sugarcane, and
       there's no damage done to the map.  No desserts stripped, no
       mountains mowed down.
       I'll try to get into my bukkit account and see what I can come
       up with later today.. but capping the amount of cash a player
       can earn per day via jobs will solve the problem of excess funds
       flooding the economy.  No matter how much a player makes by
       breaking blocks, there will be people who will mow through
       deserts and the like to get money.  It'd be less, but they'll
       still do it.  So something else will need to be figured out to
       protect the BeardedCraftian environment.
       --- Quote from: jaketheimpaler link ---
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       > Can you set the jobs to pay only on pickup?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The problem with this solution is they'd just pick it up and
       throw it back down =/
       #Post#: 4563--------------------------------------------------
       Re: bcEconomy re-work?
   DIR By: Meko
       Date: May 23, 2013, 7:58 am
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       --- Quote from: village_lunatic link ---
       >
       > What you're referring to is things like the stripped
       desserts.. yes?  Loosing materials to clag isn't a real big
       deal, if it doesn't destroy the map.  A good example is the huge
       sugarcane farm Asteria has.  We can mow it down, throw away
       sugarcane, and there's no damage done to the map.  No desserts
       stripped, no mountains mowed down.
       --- End Quote ---
       Yes the Digger job was massively abused and large amounts of
       land were leveled flat or huge holes were dug with no purpose
       other then to collect money. A large farm that is active is
       fine.
       --- Quote from: village_lunatic link ---
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       > [quote author=jaketheimpaler link=topic=702.msg4558#msg4558
       date=1369305774]
       > Can you set the jobs to pay only on pickup?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The problem with this solution is they'd just pick it up and
       throw it back down =/
       [/quote]
       So like the miner job, placed blocks dont give you Exp/money
       when mined. I'm looking into it now but i think its different
       with plants.
       #Post#: 4565--------------------------------------------------
       Re: bcEconomy re-work?
   DIR By: lumpyjor5808
       Date: May 23, 2013, 11:04 am
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       We need to nerf the abused jobs (Digger and farmer from what I
       know) TO ALL HELL! Then reset the economy. I thought of working
       on sandsail again, but guess what? The entire area around it was
       obliterated, mass digging, literally entire DUNES dug out, and
       just an ugly mess. And with this issue on farmers and
       sugarcane.... Yeah well...
       My ideas are this:
       Put regulation on items that can be used for get rich quick
       schemes. (i.e. Sugarcane, enchanted books with things like
       efficency, etc.)
       Teleport to players we know abuse this system regularly, and
       just overall make our rounds more often on the server.
       And players who are discovered to be abusing this system, I say
       they get a 3 day ban. If we make heavy punishments for it, less
       likely people will take the risk.
       This may seem harsh, but these are ways we could prevent another
       Rampant Economy.
       And to daniel. I would say the same level for ALL. Cause the
       biggest offenders from what I've read for mass digging are VIPS
       except for a few. So having a HIGH vip max level will  basically
       not fix the problem.
       And by regulation, I mean like monitoring how much player shops
       sell sugarcane for. Cause if it's dirt cheap and a farmer buys
       it, they just have to place it and break it repeadetly to make
       money. It's basically a mobile money print in a way. And things
       like books that give OP ENCHANTS should be monitored as they
       tend to be sold off from what I see in chat. Perhaps not letting
       players sell off thigns like efficency IV, but allow them to
       sell off things like effecincy II for example. (If you get the
       enchant yourself through luck good for you! No regulation on
       that  :P!)
       #Post#: 4783--------------------------------------------------
       Re: bcEconomy re-work?
   DIR By: jaketheimpaler
       Date: May 30, 2013, 8:52 am
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       What plug in do we use now? We could try a new plug in and reset
       everything. We can do a trial run for a few days and if it
       doesn't work the way Nick and Mike want, they just reset the
       cash and try another system. It would give them time to do other
       bug fixing or searching as well, while keeping the members
       occupied and relatively happy. The plug in might work better and
       we can just stick with it from there. Good idea or bad idea?
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