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       #Post#: 1688--------------------------------------------------
       vip standards
   DIR By: rowbolger
       Date: February 8, 2013, 7:48 am
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       so i know that VIP is for donators, and i dont want to
       discourage people from donating, but i think we could afford to
       be a little more selective. make it a rule they need to be
       trusted first or something, be sure they are part of the forums,
       make em play a week first, just something to weed out the
       immature.
       any thoughts?
       #Post#: 1689--------------------------------------------------
       Re: vip standards
   DIR By: Gazkam
       Date: February 8, 2013, 8:47 am
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       I don't believe you can get a refund, so if someone is willing
       to pay, then be a scrub, it's their loss.  I don't think we
       should do anything with it.  Doesn't matter whether you are a
       member, trusted, or VIP, the rules are the same.  If you break
       rules, you get punished.  I feel like most people wouldn't pay
       $10, if they planned on breaking rules.  Immaturity can be a
       problem with any rank, best not to exclude people from that
       option.
       #Post#: 1690--------------------------------------------------
       Re: vip standards
   DIR By: rowbolger
       Date: February 8, 2013, 8:58 am
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       ah gaz, my sober second thought
       not that i'm drunk atm lol
       would be nice if we had a rank that could give out  5 minute
       jail sessions when admins/mods arent on.
       i was babysitting new kids for about 5 hours, woulda killed for
       SOMETHING to deal with one of them who kept spamming for people
       to tp to him for pvp and other various crap
       #Post#: 1691--------------------------------------------------
       Re: vip standards
   DIR By: Gazkam
       Date: February 8, 2013, 9:37 am
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       This must have been after I left last night, I can only stay up
       so late.  I thought Rabid was supposed to be our late night
       moderator.  So if/ when he can come back full swing we should
       have almost 24 hours covered.  I notice all the admins are
       fairly active, the mods, not so much.  I think it needs to be
       stepped up a bit.  My opinion... we all have lives, I work 45-50
       hours a week.  :-\
       #Post#: 1692--------------------------------------------------
       Re: vip standards
   DIR By: rowbolger
       Date: February 8, 2013, 11:41 am
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       last i heard Rabid is homeless, should be resolved soon tho, and
       to hell with the server at this point, just want him to ger a
       roof over his head lol.
       last night was busier than usual tho, i'll give it that for
       sure.
       i know mods/admins have lives, and cant always be on, and thats
       totally cool.
       we need a poking stick, maybe a mod/admin puts it in the invent
       of the "babysitter" doesnt do more than a half heart damage, but
       gets the point across? idk, i havent slept in a while, probably
       not helping my ideas XD
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