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       #Post#: 130123--------------------------------------------------
       Re: On the Farm (5/9/13 - 11/4/14)
   DIR By: Jes Beard
       Date: May 13, 2013, 8:10 pm
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       --- Quote from: Deeg link ---
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       > It's high enough that Vitters will never play there regularly.
       Maybe he can make a career as a DH/1B/LF in his late 20's but
       that's a pretty optimistic take.
       >
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       While it is hard to be too excited about Vitters, he was only 22
       last year.
       If he had gone to college and was drafted last year and signed
       the day of the draft and was sent to Iowa, he could have ended
       up with close the to same number of game played as he had before
       he was called up last year.
       And if as a 22 year old fresh out of college, signing the day of
       the draft and sent to Iowa he had hit .304/.356/.513/.869 with
       about 15 HR, wouldn't most folks here be seeing him as a likely
       long term starter at 3B for the Cubs?
       Those were his numbers last year, with 17 HR.  And he was 22
       last year.
       But most here view him as a complete bust, when the same numbers
       last year if he had just entered the system would have many
       viewing him as a top prospect.
       Same prospect in both cases.  Just a different perspective.
       #Post#: 130127--------------------------------------------------
       Re: On the Farm (5/9/13 - 11/4/14)
   DIR By: Reb
       Date: May 13, 2013, 8:36 pm
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       --- Quote from: davep link ---
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       > My OPINION.
       >
       > Too many strike outs for so little power.  His defense will be
       less than Barney's and his offense will not be much better than
       Barney's.  I look for him to be a 4th or 5th infielder at best.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Watkins' iso power currently is .170---really good for a MIFer.
       The problem is the high Ks that are making it hard for him to
       hit for average because too few ABs result in a ball in play
       (aside from the huge walk total).
       Remains to be seen if he can put this all together.
       No, he's not going to be Barney defensively, nor will anybody
       else.
       #Post#: 130135--------------------------------------------------
       Re: On the Farm (5/9/13 - 11/4/14)
   DIR By: Deeg
       Date: May 13, 2013, 8:53 pm
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       And given Barney's sub-.650 career OPS, Watkins doesn't have to
       be if he develops into a decent offensive player.
       #Post#: 130137--------------------------------------------------
       Re: On the Farm (5/9/13 - 11/4/14)
   DIR By: Chris27
       Date: May 13, 2013, 8:56 pm
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       Soler: 0-3, BB, K, SB, Assist
  HTML http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2013_05_13_vtbrok_vcurok_1&t=g_box&sid=milb
       #Post#: 130184--------------------------------------------------
       Re: On the Farm (5/9/13 - 11/4/14)
   DIR By: Chris27
       Date: May 14, 2013, 12:32 am
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       Watkins: 1-4, BB, K
       Jackson: 0-4, BB
  HTML http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2013_05_13_iowaaa_renaaa_1&t=g_box&sid=milb
       Szczur: 2-5, 2B, RBI, K, SB
  HTML http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2013_05_13_tenaax_jacaax_1&t=g_box&sid=milb
       #Post#: 130246--------------------------------------------------
       Re: On the Farm (5/9/13 - 11/4/14)
   DIR By: craig
       Date: May 14, 2013, 11:42 am
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       > * Arodys Vizcaino, who is on the 60-day disabled list
       recovering from Tommy John surgery, was in Chicago to be
       examined by the team doctors. The right-hander, whom the Cubs
       acquired in July 2012 from the Braves in the Paul Maholm deal,
       underwent the surgery early in 2012.
       --- End Quote ---
       I believe the surgery was about 14 months ago.
       #Post#: 130248--------------------------------------------------
       Re: On the Farm (5/9/13 - 11/4/14)
   DIR By: JR
       Date: May 14, 2013, 11:49 am
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       It looks like the Braves had a better idea of what they were
       giving up than most of the people who were criticizing them for
       the trade did.
       Not to write off Vizcaino by any means, but at least from the
       Braves side of things, they probably didn't deserve to get
       ripped as much as they did.
       #Post#: 130261--------------------------------------------------
       Re: On the Farm (5/9/13 - 11/4/14)
   DIR By: jacey1
       Date: May 14, 2013, 1:36 pm
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       I like potential of Watkins and think he has some skills that
       could result in a decent MI. He needs to spend the year at Iowa
       and give him a shot next spring at a spot on big team. I think
       he will hit better than Barney but if he is anything more than a
       .250 hitter, we can consider that gravy.
       #Post#: 130281--------------------------------------------------
       Re: On the Farm (5/9/13 - 11/4/14)
   DIR By: craig
       Date: May 14, 2013, 2:12 pm
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       --- Quote from: JR link ---
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       > It looks like the Braves had a better idea of what they were
       giving up than most of the people who were criticizing them for
       the trade did.
       >
       > Not to write off Vizcaino by any means, but at least from the
       Braves side of things, they probably didn't deserve to get
       ripped as much as they did.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I think the Braves also appear to have recognized that there
       were issues with Delgado as well, when they apparently offered
       him for Dempster.  Sometimes a touted prospect is just the price
       a team is willing to pay for somebody they really want.  But I
       suspect that sometimes when a BA-ranked-such-and-such guy gets
       traded for surprisingly little, that the seller knows the guy
       better than BA or the buyer.
       #Post#: 130289--------------------------------------------------
       Re: On the Farm (5/9/13 - 11/4/14)
   DIR By: davep
       Date: May 14, 2013, 2:37 pm
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       With a hit today, Ian Stewart has added more than a hundred
       points to his BA recently.
       Time to bring him up.
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