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       #Post#: 129946--------------------------------------------------
       Re: On the Farm (5/9/13 - 11/4/14)
   DIR By: Cactus
       Date: May 13, 2013, 12:16 am
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       #Post#: 129947--------------------------------------------------
       Re: On the Farm (5/9/13 - 11/4/14)
   DIR By: JR
       Date: May 13, 2013, 6:27 am
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       --- Quote from: ticohans link ---
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       > Whoever has written off Candelario is nuts, FWIW.
       >
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       Yeah too early to write off Candelario.  But to say he's lived
       up to some of the hype or expectations that were associated with
       him the last couple of years, I really don't think that could be
       said either.
       #Post#: 129948--------------------------------------------------
       Re: On the Farm (5/9/13 - 11/4/14)
   DIR By: Jes Beard
       Date: May 13, 2013, 6:30 am
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       --- Quote from: StrikeZone link ---
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       > I wouldn't give up on a guy with a .352 OBP just yet.  He's
       got his warts, but Candelario is still more interesting than
       Josh Vitters.
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       Candelario is also still just 19, is (just like Vitters was at
       that level) the youngest player on his team, and is one of the
       younger players in the league.
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       Re: On the Farm (5/9/13 - 11/4/14)
   DIR By: JR
       Date: May 13, 2013, 6:37 am
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       > Of the relatively decent prospect list for hitters who do you
       have greater (or less) confidence in after 1 1/2 months this
       year?
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       It's hard to say any hitting prospect has taken a huge leap
       forward or been super impressive.  The ones who have are mostly
       second or third tier guys, like Shoulders or Bruno.
       I guess if you were going to take stock of our position player
       prospects so far, it could look something like this:
       STOCK UP
       Wilson Contreras
       Rock Shoulders
       Stephen Bruno
       Dustin Geiger
       Jae-Hoon Ha
       Ronald Torreyes
       Rubi Silva
       UNCHANGED
       Jorge Soler
       Dan Vogelbach
       Arismendy Alcantara
       Logan Watkins
       Brett Jackson
       Josh Vitters
       STOCK DOWN
       Javier Baez
       Jeimer Candelario
       Gioskar Amaya
       Marco Hernandez
       Christian Villanueva
       Matt Szczur
       Trey Martin
       Tim Saunders
       Zeke DeVoss
       Taiwan Easterling
       #Post#: 129951--------------------------------------------------
       Re: On the Farm (5/9/13 - 11/4/14)
   DIR By: Deeg
       Date: May 13, 2013, 6:50 am
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       I'm not sure why Sczur's stock would be down.  I mean, this is
       what he is - he's never OPS'd .800 in the minors except for once
       (.801) when he was repeating a level at Daytona.  He's never hit
       for any power and he's not now, but he's certainly been far
       better than he was after the promotion last year.  He is what he
       is - never a really good prospect to begin with, but his stock
       certainly hasn't gone down this year.
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       Re: On the Farm (5/9/13 - 11/4/14)
   DIR By: JR
       Date: May 13, 2013, 6:56 am
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       --- Quote from: Deeg link ---
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       > I'm not sure why Sczur's stock would be down.  I mean, this is
       what he is - he's never OPS'd .800 in the minors except for once
       (.801) when he was repeating a level at Daytona.  He's never hit
       for any power and he's not now, but he's certainly been far
       better than he was after the promotion last year.  He is what he
       is - never a really good prospect to begin with, but his stock
       certainly hasn't gone down this year.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I guess I have him as stock down mostly because whatever hope
       there was that he could be more than a future 4th outfielder or
       mediocre starting CF'er are starting to dwindle.  Maybe my own
       hopes for him were too high to begin with.
       Borderline either way I guess.
       #Post#: 129954--------------------------------------------------
       Re: On the Farm (5/9/13 - 11/4/14)
   DIR By: CurtOne
       Date: May 13, 2013, 7:12 am
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       I think that could be said for Vitters, too, JR.  Frankly, on
       anybody on the list, every year that goes by without improvement
       is stock down.
       #Post#: 129957--------------------------------------------------
       Re: On the Farm (5/9/13 - 11/4/14)
   DIR By: JR
       Date: May 13, 2013, 8:03 am
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       --- Quote from: CurtOne link ---
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       > I think that could be said for Vitters, too, JR.  Frankly, on
       anybody on the list, every year that goes by without improvement
       is stock down.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'd agree with that, and I almost had Vitters and Jackson in my
       stock down category for that very reason.  I guess putting guys
       in broad based categories in meaningless exercises like this
       isn't always easy.
       As for Vitters, I don't think he's played enough yet to show
       whether he's changed any one way or the other, so that's why I
       wound up sticking him in the unchanged category.
       #Post#: 129964--------------------------------------------------
       Re: On the Farm (5/9/13 - 11/4/14)
   DIR By: Deeg
       Date: May 13, 2013, 9:02 am
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       I can honestly say that from my perspective, it was impossible
       for Vitters' stock to go down.
       #Post#: 129966--------------------------------------------------
       Re: On the Farm (5/9/13 - 11/4/14)
   DIR By: JR
       Date: May 13, 2013, 9:17 am
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       I'm not all that high on Vitters, but the guy did hit .304 with
       an .869 OPS as a 22 year old in Triple-A.  I still think there's
       at least a little late bloomer potential with him.
       Maybe not a whole lot, but at least a little.
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