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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: craig
Date: March 29, 2013, 9:04 am
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Seems like both guys are very good, very fast, very well
controlled, and each has a reasonable 3-pitch repertoire.
Seems like a win-win-win choice, since we draft #2, not #1. If
the Cubs have a choice at both of them, the Cub scouts can
evaluate, and that's great. Win. If Houston makes that choice,
the "lesser" guy still looks pretty nice. Win. And if there's
a position guy who looks like an even better choice, all the
better, win again.
I think this whole situation is a reminder of how, even though
the team was struggling vigorously to lose less than 100 games,
it is a nice perk to get a really high pick like this. If we
were picking 4th or 5th, we'd still get a really good prospect.
But you're not in quite so strong a "win-win-win" win-big
situation.
Of course, Jeff will understand why it's going to be a "lose".
Whichever guy we end up with will probably be the pitcher who
gets hurt, or the HS outfielder who ends up struggling with big
breaking balls.
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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: davep
Date: March 29, 2013, 9:09 am
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--- Quote from: CurtOne link ---
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> My post was to provide additional fodder to P2's.
>
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Was your fodder a mudder?
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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: Ray
Date: March 29, 2013, 9:12 am
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I feel like these 2 articles are definitely relevant to the
discussion about when and how to draft an ace pitcher. The
first article is where in the draft can you find an ace. The
only guy that qualified as an ace using their criteria that
wasn't drafted in the first round is Cliff Lee. The second
article is College versus High school. Looking at that first
article, though, if you want an ace, might as well take the guy
you have rated higher between Appel and Gray because you aren't
finding one later.
HTML http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/drawing-an-ace/
HTML http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/drawing-an-ace-part-2-starting-at-the-beginning/
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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: CurtOne
Date: March 29, 2013, 9:45 am
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My tummy gets into a twist, because I just KNOW that no matter
which guy we take, it will be the wrong guy.
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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: davep
Date: March 29, 2013, 9:45 am
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It is beginning to look like Appel/Gray will go 1 and 2 in the
draft. If this is the case, I suspect that the Astros will go
for the one they think will be cheapest. I assume that will be
Gray.
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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: Deeg
Date: March 29, 2013, 9:47 am
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I'll be very surprised if the Astros don't take either Frazier
or Meadows with the #1 pick.
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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: davep
Date: March 29, 2013, 10:23 am
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If that is the case, I would expect the Cubs to select the
cheapest of the two pitchers, which would probably be Gray.
There is still a lot of time before the draft, but at this point
there doesn't seem to be a substantial difference between the
two, so they might as well save some money to be used as
overslot in later rounds.
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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: Jes Beard
Date: March 29, 2013, 10:53 am
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--- Quote from: davep link ---
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> If that is the case, I would expect the Cubs to select the
cheapest of the two pitchers, which would probably be Gray.
There is still a lot of time before the draft, but at this point
there doesn't seem to be a substantial difference between the
two, so they might as well save some money to be used as
overslot in later rounds.
>
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If Gray and Appel are close, and one is a Boras client and the
other is not.... I hope they draft the one who has no connection
to Boras.
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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: Playtwo
Date: March 29, 2013, 11:25 am
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Penny wise, pound foolish. Pick the guy based on your scouting.
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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: shasson
Date: March 29, 2013, 11:49 am
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Chris27, thanks for the Kirby mock draft. I like the idea of the
Cubs taking 3 power arms and a catcher in the first 4 rounds.
The needs are just so great throughout the organization for
those kinds of players. Am intrigued by the big catcher from
Javy Baez's old high school (Navarette).
And thanks to the list Jes posted, and the link from Ray (I
think), am much more comfortable with one of the top college
arms with the #2 overall. One of those guys would be the Cubs #1
pitching prospect immediately. Where one of the h.s. bats would
not supplant any of Soler/Baez or even Almora as #1 position
prospect in the system.
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