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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: Reb
Date: March 29, 2013, 1:58 am
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> One more thing. To elaborate on what I said earlier, Gray
threw some terrific changes tonight. Some right down the middle,
some that disappeared like Jason Bere's old Fosh pitches. Gray
said in an interview that his changeup is nasty and he wasn't
kidding. He just doesn't need it in college. He seemed to be
experimenting by throwing a bunch of them in the early innings
tonight.
>
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If you get a chance to watch Strasburg pitch this season, focus
on his change-up. It is a devastating swing-and-miss pitch and
is making him truly special right now. The Fangraphs survey of
that pitch in 2012 had something like a 43% contact rate on
swings against his change-up, the lowest of any pitch thrown by
a starting pitcher, I believe. Incredible stuff. When you have
a power pitcher who also has a good curve and
command---mastering a real good change-up puts that guy in
another category. If Gray is doing that, well, that's pretty
special.
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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: Chris27
Date: March 29, 2013, 3:05 am
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> If you get a chance to watch Strasburg pitch this season,
focus on his change-up.
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Oh I've seen Strasburg's 90 mph changeup. When I heard he was
throwing it in the minors I figured people were mistaking a
sinker. I certainly wouldn't put Gray's in that category but it
looks like it's well above average and a strikeout pitch. It
also seems to have more fade on it than Strasburg's.
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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: Chris27
Date: March 29, 2013, 3:36 am
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> “I’ve been in college baseball for 21 years and I haven’t seen
a guy just, outing after outing, dominate like he has,” OU coach
Sunny Golloway said. “I keep telling myself he’s not a
professional, he’s an amateur pitcher and he’s gonna have some
bumps in the road. Our job is to coach him up when he does. But
he hasn’t had many bumps yet. He will, but he’s tough and he’ll
be able to overcome it.”
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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: Chris27
Date: March 29, 2013, 4:25 am
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Mark Appel also pitched Thursday tossing a 4-hit shutout against
Washington State.
9-4-0-0-1-10 , 3 HB, 110 pitches
*
Overall:
Appel- 0.96 ERA, 47 IP, 27 H, 8 BB, 64 K .161 BAA
Gray- 1.34 ERA, 53-2/3 IP, 27 H, 9 BB, 63 K .152 BAA
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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: Chris27
Date: March 29, 2013, 5:05 am
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Dan Kirby's new mock draft goes more than 100 picks deep:
HTML http://throughthefencebaseball.com/2013-mlb-draft-4/30877/
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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: Chris27
Date: March 29, 2013, 5:53 am
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Perfect Game's Kendall Rogers:
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> Spoke with someone at Appel's outing tonight. The @StanfordBSB
RHP was 97 throughout the game w/ plus SL and CH
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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: Playtwo
Date: March 29, 2013, 8:34 am
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It seems to me that you need to be able to project the degree to
which a college starter will be able to adjust to ML hitters and
to probably losing a few MPH off his fastball as he matures.
I'd definitely factor in the quality of the college opposition
and the "cerebral" factor (situational ptiching, keeping hitters
off balance, moving the ball around effectively, etc.). I don't
know whether these factors separate Gray and Appel.
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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: CurtOne
Date: March 29, 2013, 8:40 am
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Many of the summer wooden bat league coaches are ex-major
leaguers or college coaches who marvel at how the wood vs.
aluminum bats change the game at the point of impact. It
actually changes more for the pitchers who tend to pitch away
from contact in college and to contact in the summer leagues.
It's a huge adjustment. I'd be interested in finding out if
Gray or Appel played summer ball somewhere in one of the wooden
bat leagues that are popping up all over the place, and how they
did. In some cases, like Gray's, it may explain some of his
dramatic development.
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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: CurtOne
Date: March 29, 2013, 8:41 am
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My post was to provide additional fodder to P2's.
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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: Ron
Date: March 29, 2013, 8:49 am
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--- Quote from: Chris27 link ---
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> Overall:
>
> Appel- 0.96 ERA, 47 IP, 27 H, 8 BB, 64 K .161 BAA
>
> Gray- 1.34 ERA, 53-2/3 IP, 27 H, 9 BB, 63 K .152 BAA
>
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The descriptions of Gray certainly do make him look attractive.
The comparison between Gray and Appel is interesting - first how
generally similar they are, other than ERA, where Appel is
better.
Appel used to be the guy getting all the attention, but now Gray
seems to be dominating the reports, here anyway. Are there
descriptions of Appel that parallel the wow-factor reports on
Gray?
It will be interesting to see what the Cubs do, but I certainly
trust their judgment. They will have tons more information,
including direct observation than anyone here or any of the
commentators. And they know what they are doing.
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