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       #Post#: 121899--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2013 Draft
   DIR By: Deeg
       Date: March 23, 2013, 2:12 am
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       I'd still take Appel, personally.
       But I'd take Frazier over either of them...
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       Re: 2013 Draft
   DIR By: Chris27
       Date: March 23, 2013, 3:02 am
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       I'd suggest watching Gray pitch before reaching a final
       decision.
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       Re: 2013 Draft
   DIR By: Deeg
       Date: March 23, 2013, 5:52 am
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       I have - he's obviously got a great arm.  And like all guys with
       great arms, he's 50-50 for Tommy John sooner or later.
       The only reason I take Appel over Gray is that he's been
       consistently great for far longer, and his stuff is just about
       as good.  Gray's been a fast riser, but his secondary pitches
       might go away just as suddenly as they blossomed.  Appel has had
       great offspeed stuff for a long time.
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       Re: 2013 Draft
   DIR By: Chris27
       Date: March 23, 2013, 6:16 am
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       > The only reason I take Appel over Gray is that he's been
       consistently great for far longer
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       This actually isn't the case. It just seems that way since
       Appel's name has been bandied about longer.
       Gray's Sophomore numbers were slightly better than Appel's, and
       Gray's stats so far this year projected out would be be
       significantly better than Appel's during his Junior season.
       I like both quite a bit. I think Gray might have the higher
       ceiling though.
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       Re: 2013 Draft
   DIR By: Chris27
       Date: March 23, 2013, 6:18 am
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  HTML http://bigleaguefutures.net/1/2013/03/23/hello-mr-gray/
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       Re: 2013 Draft
   DIR By: ticohans
       Date: March 23, 2013, 11:28 am
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       The awesome thing is that we're going to have our choice of at
       least two out of Appel, Gray, and Frazier
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       Re: 2013 Draft
   DIR By: Ron
       Date: March 23, 2013, 11:41 am
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       --- Quote from: Chris27 link ---
       >
       > I'd suggest watching Gray pitch before reaching a final
       decision.
       >
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       You mean draft decisions shouldn't be based entirely on stats?
       I suppose you also think that the more observation a team has of
       a player (along with other information about attitude,
       character, work ethic, etc.) the better basis there is for
       making a choice.   ;)
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       Re: 2013 Draft
   DIR By: craig
       Date: March 23, 2013, 12:14 pm
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       The challenge in scouting, of course, is that you scout what you
       see this spring, and need to project to what you'll see future.
       With Frazier and Meadows, it's not so clear whether the ability
       to hit HS pitching necessarily guarantees the ability to hit
       Marmol slilders and Samardz fastballs.   The nice thing with
       Gray and Appel is that you don't need to do any projecting to
       see good big-league ability; what they've got right now will
       work against big-league hitters.  But the impossible thing in
       projecting Gray and Appel is that you have no idea how to
       project what ability they'll have in the future after their arms
       are injured, and it's impossible to project how many years that
       will take.
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       Re: 2013 Draft
   DIR By: Chris27
       Date: March 23, 2013, 5:11 pm
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       I'm not sure how reliable Kaplan is or if this quote really
       tells us anything:
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       > Last nugget from scouting contact: "I know they want a college
       pitcher at #2 but they could get the best position player if
       Appel goes #1.
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  HTML https://twitter.com/thekapman/status/315473348970831873
       #Post#: 121957--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2013 Draft
   DIR By: StrikeZone
       Date: March 23, 2013, 10:56 pm
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       Regarding the draft, what say you fellas on MLB instituting a
       draft lottery like some of the other sports and the NBA?
       Peter Gammons brought up something the other day on the Twitter
       about how unethical it was for a professional sports franchise
       to actively try to lose for 4-5 years, pocket revenue sharing
       money and stock up on the first or second draft pick year after
       year then call that a strategy.
       Personally, I would be all for a lottery as long as they did
       away with that stupid free agent compensation system and the
       even more idiotic competitive balance draft garbage that has the
       Cardinals with a chance to add draft picks.
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