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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: Ray
Date: March 13, 2013, 6:22 am
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--- Quote from: Chris27 link ---
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> Well sure. There's a precedent for the Cubs taking big,
hard-throwing, strike throwers named Mark from California
schools with the #2 pick. Shouldn't be an ounce of pressure on
him if he's the pick....
>
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Guessing you're pulling for Manaea, or do do you have a favorite
in the early going? I can't see the prior Prior selection
adding any pressure to Appel if he's the pick; though if he
keeps up at this pace, the expectations will be vast. And, if
that happens, and the Cubs get him, I will gladly admit I was
wrong about him.
Doesn't Appel have different negotiating restrictions and/or
deadlines being a college senior? That is the only bad part
about selecting him, if true. I'm sure with the workload he is
going to have to endure for Stanford, he'd probably be better
off taking the rest of the year off. But it would be nice to
shoot for a 2014 call up with him if they could get him signed
somewhat early. If he and Manaea had similar ceilings and
eta's, it would be worth taking the latter just because of the
signing deadline.
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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: Ray
Date: March 13, 2013, 7:51 am
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This makes me want to take a hitter. Talk about nailing the top
of the draft as far as the hitters are concerned...pitchers, not
so much. Of course, we'd probably end up with this year's
Maybin.
HTML http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/2005draft/top200h.html
When the talent drops off though, it really drops off.
edit--I wonder who would win a foot race between the hitting
prospect rated number 159 and Billy Hamilton.
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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: Dave23
Date: March 13, 2013, 9:04 am
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Not sure what either of them run, but we faced a senior the
other night who has been clocked at 6.18 in the 60, and 4.02
from the RHH batters box on a full swing. That's just blazing
fast.
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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: Ray
Date: March 13, 2013, 9:19 am
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Not sure what Hamilton runs, but Desean Jackson(the number 159
guy for those that don't click on link) was timed at 4.35 in the
40 at the nfl combine a while back.
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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: Chris27
Date: March 13, 2013, 9:18 pm
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--- Quote ---
> Guessing you're pulling for Manaea, or do do you have a
favorite in the early going?
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Having seen none of them play live yet, I'm interested in
Manaea, Appel, and Frazier above all others right now. I know
there are those who don't like the risk of taking a pitcher that
early, but I've always been fond of potential difference-making
starters. It'll be interesting because the Astros may have the
chance to take Appel or Manaea and end up with Rodon next year
too.
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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: Chris27
Date: March 13, 2013, 9:24 pm
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Today was Frazier vs Meadows. Frazier with the KO win.
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> Clint Frazier, a 6’-1”, 190-pound right-hander blessed with
some of the best bat speed you will ever see, ignited the crowd
before the game, hitting 23 home runs in batting practice. He
also threw a strike from mid-center field, showing off his canon
arm that has been clocked at 98 mph from the outfield.
>
> He popped out to Meadows in his first at-bat and struck out in
his second at-bat on a filthy change-up from Grayson starter
Chris Erwin, a left-hander. In his third at-bat, with the game
tied at 2-2 with two on and two out, he hit the first pitch he
saw really far. It cleared the trees in left field and one scout
called it the farthest ball he has ever seen a high school
player hit … ever. To say the crowd went nuts is an
understatement.
>
> In the top of the sixth, Frazier came up for his fourth at-bat
with his team leading 8-4. Korey Anderson, another left-hander,
got two quick strikes on him. He then launched an 0-2 curveball
over the left field fence for his second home run of the game
and, once again, sent the crowd filled with nearly 100 scouts,
GM’s and countless fans into a tizzy.
>
> ...
>
> Clint Frazier finished 2-for-5 with two home runs and five RBI
and is now hitting .600 (15-for-25) with six home runs and 18
RBI over seven games. He generates tremendous power from his
strong wrists and the before mentioned bat speed. Along with his
plus arm, he also has plus speed and is aggressive in every
aspect of the game. He’s an electric player who you would be
hard pressed to find another player who enjoys the game more.
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> Meadows, a 6’-4”, left-hander who also has tremendous power, a
plus arm and plus speed, finished the game 0-for-1 with a walk
and hit-by-pitch. He didn’t get much to hit and by no means
“slipped” in anyone’s eyes as far as draft stock goes. On the
season, he is hitting .471 (8-for-17) with one home run and six
RBI.
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HTML http://throughthefencebaseball.com/clint-frazier-flexes-muscles/30120/
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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: Chris27
Date: March 13, 2013, 9:31 pm
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HTML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GF9DwiCzH8
HTML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WEqcVCby5c
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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: Deeg
Date: March 13, 2013, 10:23 pm
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The scouts can have Meadows - I'll take Frazier any day of the
week. If he and Appel are both there Theo is going to have a
very tough decision to make.
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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: ticohans
Date: March 13, 2013, 10:55 pm
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I'm just glad we'll be able to pick one of the two.
The weird thing to me is that I know Meadows is supposedly the
scouts' favorite, but every time I read a write up of Frazier's
tools, the kid sounds otherworldly. Tremendous power due to plus
bat speed and very strong wrists. 98 mph arm. Plus speed.
Healthy aggression and a burning passion for the game. How does
one scout better than that? Is it just a size thing, where
Meadows has a few inches on Frazier?
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Re: 2013 Draft
DIR By: Ray
Date: March 13, 2013, 11:00 pm
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--- Quote from: ticohans link ---
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> I'm just glad we'll be able to pick one of the two.
>
> The weird thing to me is that I know Meadows is supposedly the
scouts' favorite, but every time I read a write up of Frazier's
tools, the kid sounds otherworldly. Tremendous power due to plus
bat speed and very strong wrists. 98 mph arm. Plus speed.
Healthy aggression and a burning passion for the game. How does
one scout better than that? Is it just a size thing, where
Meadows has a few inches on Frazier?
>
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I've wondered the same thing...perhaps, Meadows is just a
smoother athlete in addition to the size? Either way, it sounds
like Frazier just has that "it" factor.
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