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#Post#: 112200--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
DIR By: Keysbear
Date: January 6, 2013, 1:30 pm
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> You based him on being the best we had in 30 years on simply
"being a QB"?
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> Oh brother......
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My post said NEARLY 30 years so I'm not including McMahon in
there. So since McMahon, who have we had that would you rather
have as QB to replace Cutler? Kramer is the only name that comes
to mind that's been worth a damn and he certainly didn't have
the tools that Cutler does.
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Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
DIR By: Phill23
Date: January 6, 2013, 1:33 pm
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McMahon won the ring in 1985. 28 years ago.
That's nearly 30 years ago! Just think if he could've stayed
healthy!
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Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
DIR By: Phill23
Date: January 6, 2013, 1:36 pm
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--- Quote from: Keysbear link ---
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> My post said NEARLY 30 years so I'm not including McMahon in
there. So since McMahon, who have we had that would you rather
have as QB to replace Cutler? Kramer is the only name that comes
to mind that's been worth a damn and he certainly didn't have
the tools that Cutler does.
>
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Erik Kramer holds the Bears record for highest career passer
rating (80.7), and owns their single-season records for
attempts, completions, touchdowns, and passing yards. Cutler
doesn't.
You asked a good question because outside of Kramer all of them
have been mediocre to bad. If Jim Harbaugh didn't have
Bumstedt at HC who knows how he may have fared? I'm just not
going to anoint him great or whatever until he shows it on the
field. When was the last time Cutler had a 300 yard passing
game?
Kramer didn't have the tools that Cutler had? You mean tools
around him to work with?
#Post#: 112203--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
DIR By: Sportster
Date: January 6, 2013, 1:36 pm
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Kramer was a good QB. He had one playoff loss to Cuts one win,
one loss. Not much difference....
#Post#: 112209--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
DIR By: Keysbear
Date: January 6, 2013, 1:48 pm
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I don't think Kramer had Cutlers arm strength and I don't recall
him being particularly mobile.
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Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
DIR By: Phill23
Date: January 6, 2013, 1:50 pm
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Oh you mean physical attributes.
I agree Cutler may have that in regards to Kramer but I thought
any Bear fan would look at wins instead of "being a QB" as a
certain poster who for some reason seem to throw race in this
conversation.
Cutler needs to step it up this next season and I don't see how
anyone would disagree with that.
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Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
DIR By: Phill23
Date: January 6, 2013, 1:52 pm
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Rex had a very strong arm too but he was way way too erratic.
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Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
DIR By: Keysbear
Date: January 6, 2013, 1:56 pm
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I don't thi nk Kramer could have even survived with this O-line.
He would be oin a wheelchair. Jim Miller had some moderate
success but I would not trade him or Kramer for Cutler. Counting
wins only is a bit deceiving since this is a team game. Archie
Manning rarely won and Trent Dilfer has a SuperBowl ring.
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Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
DIR By: yapper
Date: January 6, 2013, 2:00 pm
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Man the Colts offense looks terrible against the Ravens.
If that's what a Bruce Arians offense looks like against a
decent D, then no thanks.
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Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
DIR By: Keysbear
Date: January 6, 2013, 2:05 pm
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> Man the Colts offense looks terrible against the Ravens.
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> If that's what a Bruce Arians offense looks like against a
decent D, then no thanks.
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Bruce Arians isn't calling the plays today.
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