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#Post#: 112833--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
DIR By: vj
Date: January 9, 2013, 9:44 am
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Heard a nice endorsement from a Houston beat writer regarding
Rick Dennison. Check out his <a
href="
HTML http://www.houstontexans.com/team/coaches/rick-dennison/b0bcf564-4b97-4f02-8136-c892f704d5ba">bio</a>.
He's played linebacker for those Elway Super Bowl...uh losing...
teams, but hey there are players out there who would kill for
the opportunity on the grand stage.
He coached special teams for the Super Bowl winning teams under
Shanny.
He coached the offensive line and later became OC after Kubiak
left for 8 years and Denver's reputation at the O-line has been
solid.
And he's done a good job overall working under Kubiak in
Houston.
Pretty well rounded experience in the NFL
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Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
DIR By: yapper
Date: January 9, 2013, 9:57 am
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That is a good breadth of experience.
Sounds like about the only thing Dennison lacks to be a HC, is
actually having done it.
I still think McCoy and Arians are the front runners though and
here's how I break them out.
- With McCoy, I along with everyone else love his ability to
adapt to personnel. If we hired McCoy we could be confident our
entire offense won't break down if (or more likely, when) Cutler
goes down again next year. His youth would bring new energy and
a fresh perspective to a team that is long overdue for a
cultural makeover, and would position us well for the younger
skew our roster will be taking over the next few seasons. If we
hired McCoy I would expect our offense to look dramatically
different than anything most of us have ever seen from a Bears
team and may not have thought was even possible.
- With Arians, I like the fact that he had great success with a
QB much like Cutler (Big Ben), playing in similar conditions as
the Bears (outdoors, cold weather, sh*tty field). I also like
the HC ability he showed under duress (and with little prior
warning) this season at Indy, and the fact that his offenses and
his OLs in particular tend to overperform their talent level
(the Baltimore game last week notwithstanding). His offenses
tend to be more than the sum of their parts and are
fundamentally sound and disciplined even if not always the most
creative or exciting to watch. If we hired Arians I would
expect our offense to look pretty much like most of us associate
with Bears offenses (run to set up the pass, ball control
emphasis, occasional shots down the field, limited formations
and motion)... only executed much, much better.
Specifically with regard to those two guys and Cutler. The
impression I get is that as a player and a person, Cutler needs
to respect the guy he's working for and I believe a lot of that
comes with age. Jeremy Bates, his supposed QB Coach, is only a
few years older than he is and the results of their
collaboration so far in Chicago have been mixed at best. Cutler
was clearly a better and more successful player in Denver under
the alpha-dog coaching personality of an older Mike Shanahan
than he has ever been under Lovie/Martz/Tice. Arians -- with
his age, experience and record of success -- would IMO
immediately command Cutler's respect whereas Cutler would view
McCoy more as a collaborator. The bottom line being that McCoy
would probably be able to come up with the most successful
SYSTEM for Cutler, whereas Arians would have the best chance of
making Cutler a fundamentally better player.
I don't see any huge negatives with either McCoy or Arians...
just different sets of strengths.
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Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
DIR By: navigator
Date: January 9, 2013, 10:50 am
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what do you guys think of the zone blocking scheme(ZBS)?
Seems like we had a guy here one time that did that and no one
liked it, maybe our guys weren't great fits.
It would seem that the ZBS would match more to nimble pass
protectors than huge maulers which would seem to be a better fit
against a lot of pass rushers.
I know not all RB's like the ZBS and defenders hate it.
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Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
DIR By: yapper
Date: January 9, 2013, 11:01 am
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I get the feeling that the ZBS is where we're headed with our
new HC and/or OC.
Dennison is a big advocate of it and so is McCoy IIRC and I
think Arians may have employed it in Pittsburgh as well.
The problem with the ZBS is that to really make it work you need
O-Linemen that are both athletic and intelligent. Those guys are
hard to come by and even more so on our current roster. If we
bring in a ZBS you can say goodbye to Webb and Carimi and
probably Garza because they simply don't have the needed
agility. OTOH Lance Louis (if he comes back 100%), Jonathan
Scott and possibly Chris Spencer would probably plug in pretty
well to a ZBS offense.
This is going to be a critical decision and one our new HC must
commit to right out of the gate because it will absolutely
affect which players we target in the draft and FA. Lots of
people think a ZBS just means you use undersized O-Lineman.
That's only true if they fit the profile in the other aspects as
well. Otherwise you just have a small OL that can't play. If
you try and run a ZBS without the right players it can be a
disaster. You also need a RB who is comfortable and "natural"
working within that scheme and I have no idea where Forte would
land on that dimension.
If we really wanted to get maximum leverage out of a ZBS we
would also install FieldTurf at Soldiers. Zone schemes tend to
get blown up against bigger D-Lines when the footing isn't good.
The reason defenses hate playing against ZBS teams is because
zone blocking often does a much better job than "man" schemes of
disguising where double-teams are coming from, and also because
certain ZBS teams (the Terrell Davis era Broncos for example)
became notorious for the frequent use of cut blocks and hi-low
double teams.
HTML http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_blocking
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Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
DIR By: navigator
Date: January 9, 2013, 11:39 am
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I think our fields late in the year wouldn't do well for a ZBS.
I don't think those guys are usually real good at grinding out
short yardage situations either.
#Post#: 112851--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
DIR By: yapper
Date: January 9, 2013, 11:45 am
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If anyone is interested, here is the Bears' early season
starting OL lineup, compared to that of the Texans (ZBS)
Bears Texans
LT - J'Marcus Webb 6'7 333 LT - Duane Brown 6'4 320
LG - Chris Spencer 6'3 309 LG - Wade Smith 6'4 307
C - Roberto Garza 6'3 310 C - Chris Myers 6'4 290
RG - Lance Louis 6'3 320 RG - Ben Jones 6'3 303
RT - Gabe Carimi 6'7 316 RT - Derek Newton 6'5 318
#Post#: 112877--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
DIR By: davebear
Date: January 9, 2013, 1:52 pm
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So the Chargers hired the Indy personnel guy as their GM. Maybe
that gives them the first shot at Arians.
Yapper, I have to disagree with your assessment of our OL
athleticism. I see it as athleticism is all they have ....not
the ability to block.
Last year and less this year we ran a lot of plays where the OL
had to pull, both guards and tackles. We were pretty successful
on those plays largely because our OL had some agility. A lot
of that was with Chris Williams at LG though, and that was the
only thing I though he did well.
If you could watch the last Green Bay game from last year you
would see what I mean.
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Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
DIR By: dallasbear
Date: January 9, 2013, 2:25 pm
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Lance Louis was practically pulling every play this year. And
the Chris Williams cut was a bad move.
And I saw that Corey Graham is the starting nickel back for the
Ravens...he had 60 tackles for them this year!
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Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
DIR By: yapper
Date: January 9, 2013, 2:29 pm
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And I saw that Corey Graham is the starting nickel back for the
Ravens...he had 60 tackles for them this year!
That doesn't surprise me. I was saying for years that Corey
Graham should be getting snaps on our defense and not just STs.
The guy is smooth, has good ball skills and can move.
Lovie was not good at talent evaluation. Not good at all. A
big reason the Ravens are in the postseason and we're not.
#Post#: 112901--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
DIR By: dallasbear
Date: January 9, 2013, 2:41 pm
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Remember when DJ Moore was hurt in 2011 and Corey Graham had to
sub in for him. He had an interception in 3 straight games.
And he was a pro bowl quality special teamer.
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