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       #Post#: 112219--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: yapper
       Date: January 6, 2013, 2:22 pm
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       The Colts O-Line isn't very good either.  That might have
       something to do with it.
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       Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: Phill23
       Date: January 6, 2013, 3:59 pm
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       > I don't thi nk Kramer could have even survived with this
       O-line. He would be oin a wheelchair.
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       Agreed.
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       > Jim Miller had some moderate success but I would not trade him
       or Kramer for Cutler.
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       They are all equal in my eyes.   I mean they all had moderate or
       less success as Bears QB's.   For what it's worth I don't want
       to lose Cutler either but whenever someone gives some
       constructive criticism of him then the Cutler kool-aid drinkers
       comes out in full effect.  He's the best we have now and the way
       he's played lately it's nothing to brag about.
       I do hope with the new emphasis on the offensive side of the
       ball now he'll perform worthy of his contract and the picks we
       gave up for him.
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       > Counting wins only is a bit deceiving since this is a team
       game. Archie Manning rarely won and Trent Dilfer has a SuperBowl
       ring.
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       Disagree about wins being deceiving.  That's the only that
       counts.  WINS!!!  You can't go anywhere with LOSES!
       And that comparison about Dilfer and Manning, who were on two
       totally different teams, isn't on the same level of the
       conversation we're having.
       #Post#: 112228--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: navigator
       Date: January 6, 2013, 4:54 pm
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       I think Jason Cambell is about as good as the quality of QBs we
       have had in a long time and I think we all see how he has done
       when Cutler has been hurt.
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       Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: Pekin
       Date: January 6, 2013, 9:30 pm
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       No stone left unturned...
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       Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: Jackiejokeman
       Date: January 6, 2013, 9:54 pm
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       --- Quote from: navigator link ---
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       > I think Jason Cambell is about as good as the quality of QBs
       we have had in a long time and I think we all see how he has
       done when Cutler has been hurt.
       >
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       Correct me if I am wrong ... but do the Houston Texans have
       THREE OL going to the PRO BOWL?
       Now it doesnt take a stroke of greatness at Halas Hall to
       figure some basic things out. Or does it ?
       #Post#: 112277--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: yapper
       Date: January 6, 2013, 9:59 pm
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       Yeah the Texans have their LT, C and one of their OGs all going
       to the Pro Bowl.
       Thats how a stiff like Matt Schaub can put up huge numbers
       despite having no mobility and a noodle arm. Cutler could
       destroy defenses behind a line like that.
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       Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: Keysbear
       Date: January 6, 2013, 10:02 pm
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       Having Arian Foster in the backfield and Andre Johnson to throw
       to helps.
       #Post#: 112281--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: packrat
       Date: January 6, 2013, 10:05 pm
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       I just got thinking about the full consequences of the defeat of
       GB by Seattle.  If the Packers had won that game, as as they
       should have, Seattle would have ended the season with a record
       of 10-6 the same as the Bears and Vikings.
       I wonder who would have been in the play-offs, then.
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       Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: Keysbear
       Date: January 6, 2013, 10:09 pm
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       same teams...Seattle  beat the Bears Head to Head.
       #Post#: 112284--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2013 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: yapper
       Date: January 6, 2013, 10:09 pm
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       Forte is a very different RB than Foster but Andre Johnson is
       very much like Marshall and they use him similarly. In fact
       watching the Texans yesterday I could very easily see the Bears
       running that system and doing well with it. It's a scheme that
       translates well not only to our skill players but to playing
       outdoors in the cold.
       We would need MUCH better players on our OL though. The worst
       scrub on the Texans OL is better than our best starter by far.
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