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#Post#: 111918--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2013 NFL Draft
By: yapper Date: January 4, 2013, 11:08 am
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I guess I'm not getting why so many people seem to think it's so
all-fired important that we spend a high draft pick on
Urlacher's replacement this year.
If this Ogletree guy is some kind of once-a-decade, can't miss
talent then maybe that's one thing but Marinelli (or whomever
our DC ends up being) should be able to tweak the scheme so that
the whole thing doesn't fall apart if we don't have a Pro Bowl
caliber MLB for a year or two.
I figure we go with what we've got at MLB in 2013. If it turns
out to be a real problem then fine, full steam ahead drafting
one in 2014. But even if the play at MLB drops off next year
it's not something that's going to cost us games like our OL did
this year... and therefore, I just don't see it being a
priority.
Seems to me if we spend the 1st round pick on a defensive player
(again) we're just continuing the Lovie culture of the defense
gets first priority on everything and the O gets the scraps. I
don't think that's the identity Emery has in mind for the Bears
going forward. We've got a whole new offense coming in and it's
gonna require some horses. That's where our picks should be
going this year.
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Re: 2013 NFL Draft
By: yapper Date: January 4, 2013, 11:42 am
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There are reports that Texas A&M OT Jake Matthews may be
returning to school.
He's pretty widely considered a Top-20 pick if he comes out so
if he doesn't, that could shake things up for a lot of teams in
the 1st round and lead to guys like Fisher and maybe even
Barrett Jones going higher than currently projected.
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Re: 2013 NFL Draft
By: boogie Date: January 4, 2013, 12:05 pm
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1 Kansas City *Luke Joeckel
OT
Texas A&M
2
Jacksonville Star Lotulelei DT
Utah
3
Oakland *Bjoern Werner
DE
Florida State
4
Philadelphia Geno Smith
QB West Virginia
5 Detroit Damontre Moore
DE
Texas A&M
6
Cleveland
*Dee Milliner
CB
Alabama
7 Arizona Matt Barkley
QB
Southern California
8 Buffalo Tyler Wilson
QB Arkansas
9
NY Jets *Jarvis Jones
LB Georgia
10
Tennessee
Manti Te'o
LB Notre Dame
11 San Diego
*Jake Matthews
OT
Texas A&M
12
Miami Keenan Allen
WR
California
13
Tampa Bay
*Kiki Mingo
DE
LSU
14
Carolina *Sheldon Richardson
DT
Missouri
15 New Orleans
Johnathan Hankins
DT
Ohio State
16
St. Louis
*Taylor Lewan
OT Michigan
17 Pittsburgh
Jesse Williams
NT Alabama
18 Dallas Chance Warmack
OG Alabama
19 NY Giants Ziggy Ansah
DE
BYU
20
Chicago Eric Fisher
OT
Central Michigan
21P Cincinnati *Sam Montgomery
DE
LSU
22P
St. Louis (from Washington)
Jonathan Cooper
OG
North Carolina
23P Baltimore
Dion Jordan
LB
Oregon
24P
Indianapolis Johnathan Banks
CB Mississippi State
25P
Minnesota
*Cordarelle Patterson
WR
Tennessee
26P
Seattle
Alex Okafor
DE
Texas
27P
Green Bay *Alec Ogletree
LB
Georgia
28P San Francisco *Robert Woods
WR
Southern California
29P
Houston John Jenkins
NT Georgia
30P
New England Tavon Austin WR
West Virginia
31P
Atlanta Tyler Eifert
TE
Notre Dame
32P
Denver *Xavier Rhodes
CB
Florida State
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Re: 2013 NFL Draft
By: yapper Date: January 4, 2013, 12:14 pm
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I will eat my hat if Joeckl goes #1 overall to the Chiefs.
KC is Andy Reid's team now, their QB situation is a disaster,
and Reid loves developing young QBs. Reach or not, Geno Smith
will be the top pick unless the Chiefs trade out of it.
As for Eric Fisher, I'd be fine with him as long as Emery had
throughly vetted his ability to jump from MAC competition to the
big time. He is on the lanky side (6'8 305) but since LTs are
more and more going up against 250-lb speed guys vs. 290-lbers,
that's a risk I'm OK with as long as his feet and technique are
rock solid. And no matter what, if we're starting ANY rookie LT
we had damn well better have the best veteran LG that money can
buy lined up next to him. And the best OL coach money can buy
coaching him up.
HTML http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/OT/Eric-Fisher.php
#Post#: 111950--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2013 NFL Draft
By: joki13 Date: January 4, 2013, 2:30 pm
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yapper I get your point about Fisher,but,in the videos I
watched he was going up against Iowa and Michigan St. I don't
think those are shabby opponents. As a matter of fact I believe
Michigan St. was blowing them away yet I saw no breakdown in
Fisher's play. Just my 2 cents.
#Post#: 111957--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2013 NFL Draft
By: yapper Date: January 4, 2013, 2:47 pm
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Joki -
Interesting and encouraging that you bring up the game vs.
Michigan State.
One thing I always look for in college prospects is standout
players on average to bad teams, who still manage to look good
against superior competition. Those guys impress me because #1,
they're playing hard and well even when their team is losing
(which shows me mental toughness and personal pride) and #2,
they likely aren't getting a lot of help from those around them.
You see so many guys who come highly rated out of the big-time
college football factories and flop in the NFL, and a lot of
times I think that's a case of their system and their teammates
making them look better than they are. Sometimes a guy who's
carrying his team on his back through a 3- or 4-win season winds
up being the better pro player than the guy who's along for the
ride on a Top 10 BCS team.
#Post#: 111990--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2013 NFL Draft
By: WshflThinking Date: January 4, 2013, 5:16 pm
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I saw Olgletree play. He is worth #20 for sure
#Post#: 112013--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2013 NFL Draft
By: yapper Date: January 4, 2013, 9:18 pm
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You know how every year youll be watching the Packers or
Patriots and you'll see some guy just tearing it up that no ones
ever heard of before? And you go, where the hell are they
finding these guys? Thats the team I want the Bears to be. Its
still early in Emerys tenure here but I'm hoping he can get us
there.
#Post#: 112026--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2013 NFL Draft
By: Grizzlybear34 Date: January 5, 2013, 5:03 am
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I don't think Clady will just go free, and if Albert and Bushrod
are anything close they will also be signed or franchised. I do
think your second scenario has a better chance of happening,
picking up an established guard - maybe overpaying, and placing
them next to our left tackle
#Post#: 112029--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2013 NFL Draft
By: WshflThinking Date: January 5, 2013, 6:55 am
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[quote author=yapper link=topic=85.msg112013#msg112013
date=1357355908]
You know how every year youll be watching the Packers or
Patriots and you'll see some guy just tearing it up that no ones
ever heard of before? And you go, where the hell are they
finding these guys? Thats the team I want the Bears to be. Its
still early in Emerys tenure here but I'm hoping he can get us
there.
[/quote]
And then you get depressed or angry the players we select are
IR-ed or just play ST. Hopefully with Lovie gone that wont
happen any longer. We need impact players.
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