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       #Post#: 86551--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
   DIR By: Jes Beard
       Date: July 31, 2012, 6:51 am
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       --- Quote from: JR link ---
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       > .... start making a move to b eing competitive again....
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       Doncha love it when Dave23 and Curt think they are cute?
       On the substantive point, just as a PTBNL can be determined
       based on after-trade the performance of another player in the
       deal, it would seem that the amount of salary a team pays of a
       Soriano-style contract could be based on how he does for the new
       team, making it a bit more attractive to the team taking on the
       large contract.
       #Post#: 86562--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
   DIR By: davep
       Date: July 31, 2012, 8:09 am
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       I think that the amount of cash has to be determined at the time
       of the deal.
       #Post#: 86575--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
   DIR By: FITS
       Date: July 31, 2012, 8:43 am
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       #Post#: 86605--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
   DIR By: Cactus
       Date: July 31, 2012, 10:11 am
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       Does forty votes sound about right?
       What are your thoughts re: Ryan Dempster?
       The media started a firestorm and he got caught in the middle,
       give him a break!  1 (2.5%)
       He put Atlanta on his list and should have gone there, he's a
       bum!                    16 (40%)
       He is only exercising his hard-earned bargaining rights, cut him
       some slack!        7 (17.5%)
       We should withhold judgement until all of the details are
       known...                    16 (40%)
       Total Members Voted: 40
       #Post#: 86822--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
   DIR By: JR
       Date: July 31, 2012, 3:29 pm
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       --- Quote from: Ron link ---
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       > Get over it.
       >
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       I've got to agree with that.  We got the #9 prospect from the
       2nd ranked farm system in baseball and a BA Top 100 prospect in
       Villenueva and a guy in Hendricks with a 112:15 strikeout to
       walk ratio who probably would have been a Top 15-20 prospect in
       their system after this season.
       Is it better than Randall Delgado?  Probably not, but it's still
       a very respectable package.  At the very least Dempster opened
       the trade market for himself when it was obvious the Dodgers
       weren't going to step up and make a fair offer.  And for
       Dempster, he gets to pitch for a two time World Series team and
       is reunited with Soto, so that might arguably be a better
       situation for him than Atlanta.  That's what a 10/5 guy has a
       right to do, to get himself into the best personal situation he
       can, and he managed to do that while we got a respectable
       package in return for him.
       Time for the Dempster hate to stop.
       #Post#: 86824--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
   DIR By: Cactus
       Date: July 31, 2012, 3:30 pm
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       What JR said.
       #Post#: 86825--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
   DIR By: AZSteve
       Date: July 31, 2012, 3:30 pm
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       yep...
       #Post#: 86829--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
   DIR By: Playtwo
       Date: July 31, 2012, 3:35 pm
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       Agreed, JR.  It ain't likely to happen though.
       #Post#: 86834--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
   DIR By: Clarkaddison
       Date: July 31, 2012, 3:41 pm
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       I'm with JR
       #Post#: 86835--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
   DIR By: Deeg
       Date: July 31, 2012, 3:41 pm
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       Texas package was about on par with Gould - quite mediocre.
       Dempster s crewed us over - don't know why that's so hard to
       accept.
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