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#Post#: 86255--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Jes Beard
Date: July 30, 2012, 3:50 pm
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--- Quote from: CurtOne link ---
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> If I'm the Dodgers, I have Kershaw, Billingsley, Capuano,
Harang, and Lilly coming off the DL
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And Dempster is better than any of the five.
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Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: guest61
Date: July 30, 2012, 4:18 pm
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LOL
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Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Ron
Date: July 30, 2012, 4:19 pm
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Patrick Mooney ‏@CSNMooney
Dempster doesn't expect trade happening today, waiting to see
what front office brings him tomorrow, but says that could
change on the hour.
This should further endear Dempster to fans who are already
upset with him.
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Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Cubsin
Date: July 30, 2012, 4:29 pm
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Dempster will probably go out to lunch tomorrow at an
undisclosed location, then turn off his cell phone so he doesn't
have to leave Chicago.
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Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Ron
Date: July 30, 2012, 4:58 pm
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Obviously everything being tweeted about the Cubs being in the
process of caving in to the Dodgers is accurate, just as this
tweet from Buster Olney is.
Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN
Alfonso Soriano has been part of Ryan Dempster talks for days,
but there hasn't been any recent dialogue between LAD/Cubs.
Hand me the sea salt, please.
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Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: guest61
Date: July 30, 2012, 5:19 pm
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Wendy's puts sea salt on their french fries now.
I like it.
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Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Ron
Date: July 31, 2012, 12:31 am
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Contrary to Buster Olney, Ken Rosenthal continues to insist that
the Dodgers and Cubs are still talking about a deal involving
Dempster & Soriano. Do the Dodgers have any interesting young
position players that could be included in a deal (such as 3B?).
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Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Deeg
Date: July 31, 2012, 12:40 am
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--- Quote from: JR link ---
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> One interesting thing the Dodgers could do is eat a ton of
Soriano's salary. If the Cubs could get them to somehow eat
$16-18 million of his remaining contract, that could be just as
important to our future as obtaining a premium prospect would.
>
--- End Quote ---
Why? Are you expecting Theo to be a big spender in the next two
years, when the Cubs won't be contending?
I'd love to be rid of some of Soriano's contract, but given that
he's played at an acceptable level this season the incentive to
deal him strictly as a salary dump is limited. Who else are we
spending money on for the next two seasons? Even is Soriano
reverts to terrible I don't see how his salary is a major
obstacle to anything Theo plans to do. Pay the whole contract
if it nets you a decent prospect in return.
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Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Ron
Date: July 31, 2012, 12:41 am
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Disagree. Cubs have shown they are willing to pay money in
exchange for improving quality of trade return. Can't see them
changing that approach.
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Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: JR
Date: July 31, 2012, 12:57 am
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It was just a thought. I very seriously doubt the Dodgers will
want to be on the hook for even that much of Soriano's remaining
contract anyway.
Still, while the Cubs have usually been willing to eat an entire
contract in return for a better return in players, that's almost
always been for a one year commitment or a partial year
commitment. I imagine getting 50% or more of Soriano's
remaining contract through 2014 off the books would be a totally
different matter and probably one where they would be willing to
take a sacrifice in talent.
And while Theo might still be looking at 2014 as a rebuild year,
that's probably when they'd at least like to start making a move
to b eing competitive again. An extra $9 million might be a
useful thing to have going into that season. Also, most
prospects fail and won't ever be worth close to $16-18 million
in value, so that's also something to be said for guaranteeing a
locked in $16-18 million in savings if by some chance the
Dodgers could be talked into that.
An extra $18 million between 2013 and 2014 also makes re-signing
Garza look a lot more attractive.
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