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#Post#: 85922--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Deeg
Date: July 28, 2012, 2:39 am
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But what teams will be open to him?
#Post#: 85927--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Jes Beard
Date: July 28, 2012, 5:57 am
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--- Quote from: StrikeZone link ---
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> How many of the prospects in their deep system would Texas
trade for a rental and an injured dude?
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The concern over the "injured dude" can be addressed by using
PTBNL from different lists depending on how quickly Garza
returns.
#Post#: 85965--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Ron
Date: July 28, 2012, 2:08 pm
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We'll all be glad when the trading deadline gets here and when
the drama around Dempster is past, I think. But the more I read
about other teams and their options, I do wonder if the Cubs are
in as bad a bargaining position as has been assumed here.
This presumes that the recent report that Dempster is open to
accepting a trade to a team other than the Dodgers (including
the Braves), when it gets closer to the deadline is accurate.
IF that's true, the Cubs could end up still making a good deal
for him. The Marlins are apparently asking for the moon for
their pitchers. Liriano is available but he hasn't had below a
5.0 ERA since 2010. Dempster sure seems to be the best available
starting pitcher, far and away, even as a rental. With the
Braves, Dodgers, Rangers, Nationals and White Sox all looking
for starting pitching, so long as Dempster becomes more
flexible, the Cubs may do just fine.
#Post#: 85971--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Deeg
Date: July 28, 2012, 2:36 pm
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Lee may very well be available, and Shields certainly is.
#Post#: 85993--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Ron
Date: July 28, 2012, 6:30 pm
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--- Quote from: Deeg link ---
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> Lee may very well be available, and Shields certainly is.
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Jon Heyman claims that the Rays want more for Shields than the
Brewers got for Greinke.
HTML http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/jon-heyman/19676351/rangers-dodgers-braves-indians-in-mix-for-shields
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Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Ron
Date: July 28, 2012, 6:34 pm
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Meanwhile Danny Knobler says that "people in baseball" have
started thinking Dempster could still end up with the Braves.
There's a source ("people in baseball") you can rely on.
HTML http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/danny-knobler/19677669/could-dempster-still-land-with-braves?-some-still-think-he-will
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#Post#: 85999--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: ticohans
Date: July 28, 2012, 7:10 pm
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They should want more for Shields. He's not a rental.
The Greinke return both legitimizes the Delgado return for Demp
and puts further pressure on the Dodgers.
It's going to be hilarious to watch them limp towards the
playoffs with their current rotation (sans Eovaldi). They HAVE
to make a move.
Deal Demp to the Braves for Delgado, then tell LA the price for
Garza is Lee and Webster. What are they going to do? Pay MORE
for Shields?
#Post#: 86002--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Chris27
Date: July 28, 2012, 8:05 pm
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Eight shutout innings for Mike Minor against the Phillies
tonight. That's 4 straight very good starts for him. I'd have no
problem taking him back in a Dempster deal if Delgado is off the
table.
#Post#: 86206--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Ron
Date: July 30, 2012, 1:40 pm
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I'd be surprised if we hear anything serious about Dempster
unless and until there is actually a deal finalized. Suspect
the Cubs are going be very insistent about silence by people
with whom the have discussions. That's not to say there won't
be commentators chiming in - it's what they do, and speculation
will fill the void. Bowden's tweet is a good example.
I'm guessing we won't know anything until Tuesday, tonight at
the earliest.
Meanwhile the Marlins have reportedly decided not to trade
Johnson and the cost to teams interested in Clif Lee (money as
well talent) would presumably make him a non factor. Just a
little over 25 hours to go to the deadline.
#Post#: 86207--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: jacey1
Date: July 30, 2012, 1:43 pm
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--- Quote from: Chris27 link ---
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> Eight shutout innings for Mike Minor against the Phillies
tonight. That's 4 straight very good starts for him. I'd have no
problem taking him back in a Dempster deal if Delgado is off the
table.
>
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Not Minor by himself...I'd have to get at least one other
prospect back
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