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#Post#: 85666--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Deeg
Date: July 27, 2012, 11:07 am
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Brenly said on the radio today that he believes Dempster said no
because he was offended that he didn't hear about it from Theo
before twitter.
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Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Cubsin
Date: July 27, 2012, 11:14 am
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If Garza is traded in the off-season, his new team would be
eligible for a compensatory draft pick. If he's traded on or
after Opening Day next year, they would not.
#Post#: 85672--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Deeg
Date: July 27, 2012, 11:19 am
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Thanks Cubsin, I thought so. Trading Garza over the winter
makes the most sense - all the more so if the Cubs are reduced
to either keeping Demp or just getting an extra pick.
It seems as if the focus should turn to trading Maholm now.
Maybe the Dodgers would give us Gould for him.
#Post#: 85771--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Ron
Date: July 27, 2012, 1:42 pm
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Doug Padilla (1:22 PM)
As I mentioned on the radio an hour ago, the deadline becomes
the Cubs' biggest ally to get a better deal. The Dodgers will
play the game and try to low ball the Cubs to see if they panic.
If they don't, the Dodgers will be forced to make a better offer
as the deadline draws near. Unless, of course, they've moved on
to a different deal. Multiple games of chicken going on now.
#Post#: 85838--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Ron
Date: July 27, 2012, 4:51 pm
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FWIW, Kaplan is reporting on his post-game TV show that he's
hearing that Dempster is supposed to be open to trade
possibilities from other teams (besides Dodgers and Braves), at
this point. Said that the deal with the Braves may have just
come too early for Dempster, in terms of giving up on the
Dodgers having a chance to improve their offer to the Cubs.
Hollandsworth doesn't think there's any chance of Dempster going
to the Braves at this point. Thinks the Braves don't want to be
a "rebound" team. Hard for me to believe that they care about
something like that when it comes to a rental player who is
there to get them to the playoffs.
#Post#: 85848--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Ron
Date: July 27, 2012, 5:39 pm
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FWIW, here's Kaplan with his report on Dempster's current
posture, and the timing issue of the Braves deal.
After talking with some well-informed sources this afternoon, it
appears that the Cubs may have more possibilities than just the
Los Angeles Dodgers to trade Ryan Dempster to. According to
people with knowledge of the discussions, Dempster is willing to
consider other teams than the Dodgers but as is his right he
wants time to consider his options before giving his approval to
a trade.
“Ryan is willing to look at any opportunity that the Cubs bring
to him but in the end he has 10 and 5 rights and he will use
them to veto a trade he is not comfortable with,” the source
said.
Sources also confirmed to me today that Dempster has not told
Cubs management that he will only play for the Los Angeles
Dodgers. His position appears to be that he will consider any
option that sends him to a team with a chance to win a World
Series. The sticking point with the original deal with Atlanta
was the fact that by making the trade early in the week it
eliminated any chance for LA to increase its offer and Dempster
wanted time to give the Dodgers a chance to increase their
proposal so that he could play out west and with Ted Lilly.
Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer according to two formers GM’s who
have negotiated against them in the past will not cave in just
to make a deal. If the Dodgers do not increase their offer the
Cubs may engage in serious talks with several other teams in the
market for starting pitching and if they can find an acceptable
deal they would then present that opportunity to Dempster. As we
draw closer to the July 31st deadline the Cubs will find out
just how serious the 35 year old Dempster is about wanting to
pitch in a pennant race this fall.
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Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: buff
Date: July 27, 2012, 8:15 pm
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I like the idea of approaching the Rangers with both Garza and
Dempster. Texas has a deep farm system and all but said anyone
except Profar is available in a deal.
#Post#: 85884--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: StrikeZone
Date: July 27, 2012, 8:56 pm
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How many of the prospects in their deep system would Texas trade
for a rental and an injured dude?
#Post#: 85887--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: davep
Date: July 27, 2012, 9:14 pm
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I suppose that would depend upon who the injured dude was, and
whether or not they thought the injury was serious.
#Post#: 85917--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: ticohans
Date: July 28, 2012, 1:46 am
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If Demp is open to more teams now, that may also have something
to do with fan reaction to the rejected Braves deal.
As others have said, it would be very awkward for him to stay
with Chicago at this point.
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