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       #Post#: 85623--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
   DIR By: buff
       Date: July 27, 2012, 9:02 am
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       Dodgers don't have the prospects to get Garza
       #Post#: 85624--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
   DIR By: shasson
       Date: July 27, 2012, 9:07 am
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       Is anyone else deeply ambivelent about trading Garza? Say you
       could get Lee and Webster from the Dodgers for him...maybe, in 3
       years, one of them is almost as good as Garza is now.
       Frankly given his age and contract status and stuff, I'd prefer
       the Cubs just  kept him (unless his personality is annoying as
       hell to his teammates, which seems possible).
       #Post#: 85626--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
   DIR By: Jes Beard
       Date: July 27, 2012, 9:30 am
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       --- Quote from: Ron link ---
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       > Dempster's bad luck that Garza was taken out of the picture
       when he was.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       What did I miss?
       How was Garza taken out of the picture?
       #Post#: 85637--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
   DIR By: davep
       Date: July 27, 2012, 10:10 am
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       His injury probably caused other teams to be cautious, at least
       for now.
       #Post#: 85646--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
   DIR By: Deeg
       Date: July 27, 2012, 10:45 am
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       While comparing the Dempster situation to the Maddux situation
       is silly to begin with, it's interesting that Miles - who indeed
       is normally the best of the Cubs beat writers - had some factual
       errors in there, whatever you think of his opinion.  Most
       glaring is that Dempster didn't scuttle a deal "for a AAA
       prospect".  Delgado is a major-league pitcher.
       #Post#: 85647--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
   DIR By: Deeg
       Date: July 27, 2012, 10:46 am
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       --- Quote from: shasson link ---
       >
       > Is anyone else deeply ambivelent about trading Garza? Say you
       could get Lee and Webster from the Dodgers for him...maybe, in 3
       years, one of them is almost as good as Garza is now.
       >
       > Frankly given his age and contract status and stuff, I'd
       prefer the Cubs just  kept him (unless his personality is
       annoying as hell to his teammates, which seems possible).
       >
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I see no reason to trade Garza now at a discount.  If he pitches
       well for the rest of the season, trade him at full value over
       the winter.  It wouldn't be as much as we'd hoped, but it'd
       still be more than what we'd get trading him as an injury risk
       now.
       #Post#: 85649--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
   DIR By: Ron
       Date: July 27, 2012, 10:52 am
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       Jim Bowden chimes in on Dempster:
       ‏@JimBowdenESPNxm
       Jason Vargas trade value climbs...James Shields declines while
       Dempster to Dodgers progresses
       Given that it's coming from Bowden, all hopes for deal with
       Dodgers dashed.  ;)
       #Post#: 85659--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
   DIR By: ticohans
       Date: July 27, 2012, 11:01 am
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       If we trade Garza this winter, does he still retain the benefit
       to his new team of having a comp pick attached to him?
       #Post#: 85662--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
   DIR By: Deeg
       Date: July 27, 2012, 11:03 am
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       --- Quote from: ticohans link ---
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       > If we trade Garza this winter, does he still retain the
       benefit to his new team of having a comp pick attached to him?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Isn't the wording in the CBA such that his new team would get a
       comp pick?
       #Post#: 85665--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
   DIR By: ticohans
       Date: July 27, 2012, 11:07 am
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       That's what I'm asking/hoping.
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