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       #Post#: 85582--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
       By: Cubsin Date: July 26, 2012, 11:37 pm
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       [quote author=davep link=topic=80.msg85571#msg85571
       date=1343358417]
       Why would it be bad to have Dempster on the roster?  if they
       can't get something quite good for him, then keep him and offer
       him a qualifying amount this winter.  If he refuses, we get a
       draft choice.  If he accepts, we have him for another year, and
       might be able to trade him this winter or next summer.
       [/quote]
       Yeah, when the booing gets to Dempster, we can send him and the
       balance of his 2013 salary to the Dodgers for table scraps (if
       they still want him).
       #Post#: 85583--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
       By: ticohans Date: July 26, 2012, 11:54 pm
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       So if ATL doesnt get another SP, before Demp is dealt, you think
       Delgado is still on the table?
       #Post#: 85584--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
       By: Chris27 Date: July 26, 2012, 11:56 pm
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       Greinke's going to get traded so there's another arm in the way
       of any Dempster or Garza deal.
       #Post#: 85588--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
       By: Deeg Date: July 27, 2012, 12:07 am
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       [quote author=ticohans link=topic=80.msg85583#msg85583
       date=1343364889]
       So if ATL doesnt get another SP, before Demp is dealt, you think
       Delgado is still on the table?
       [/quote]
       No way Delgado is still on the table.  Wren is almost as pissed
       at this double-cross as Theo.
       #Post#: 85610--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
       By: Ron Date: July 27, 2012, 7:57 am
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       [quote author=Chris27 link=topic=80.msg85584#msg85584
       date=1343364974]
       Greinke's going to get traded so there's another arm in the way
       of any Dempster or Garza deal.
       [/quote]
       Greineke is going to cost a whole lot more than Dempster or
       Garza, so while he's certainly a factor, it's sort of apples and
       oranges.
       #Post#: 85618--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
       By: nobull Date: July 27, 2012, 8:50 am
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       [quote author=Jes Beard link=topic=80.msg85409#msg85409
       date=1343315121]
       What a disappointment.... I thought this topic was going to be
       where Deeg and jiggs would post their offers to find a hitman to
       take out Dempster....
       [/quote]
       This is not going to end well.
       #Post#: 85619--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
       By: ticohans Date: July 27, 2012, 8:52 am
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       Grienke will NOT cost a whole lot more than Garza. Grienke is a
       rental. Garza has the extra year of control and the comp pick.
       #Post#: 85620--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
       By: Ron Date: July 27, 2012, 8:53 am
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       Bruce Miles is much admired here, appropriately so. He's not a
       shill for anyone, he's not out to create controversy or a
       splash, and he's not a bandwagon jumper, like so many writers
       are.  He has what I consider a very thoughtful and balanced
       article on the Dempster situation.
  HTML http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120726/sports/707269631/
  HTML http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120726/sports/707269631/
       
       #Post#: 85621--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
       By: Ron Date: July 27, 2012, 8:58 am
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       [quote author=ticohans link=topic=80.msg85619#msg85619
       date=1343397163]
       Grienke will NOT cost a whole lot more than Garza. Grienke is a
       rental. Garza has the extra year of control and the comp pick.
       [/quote]
       I should have said cost more than Dempster.  My mistake.  No
       idea how Garza stacks up against Greineke - given that deal for
       Greineke could include an extension.
       #Post#: 85622--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ryan Dempster
       By: Ron Date: July 27, 2012, 9:01 am
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       Dempster's bad luck that Garza was taken out of the picture when
       he was.  If the Cubs could have substituted Garza for Dempster,
       getting a haul from LA in the process, people would still be
       upset with Dempster, but not as upset as now with the
       possibility of not being able to make good trades for either
       Dempster or Garza.
       Hopefully, we'll have a pleasant surprise or two by Tuesday.
       Fingers crossed (toes too).
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