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#Post#: 87097--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: chgojhawk
Date: August 1, 2012, 11:13 am
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Jes,
The situation was one where the head S. American scout was from
(or handling) Venezuela. He wanted to sign Venezuelans. It was
a big power struggle. If other scouts were perceived to have a
better ability to find, procure and sign talent it would lessen
his standing.
I know the person who told me the situation as I coached his kid
and got to know him pretty well. As a Cubs minor league nut we
have had some great conversations. He is shocked that I (or
anyone) knows about these kids.
For the record, my guy loves Oneri and considers him one of his
closest friends.
#Post#: 87101--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Deeg
Date: August 1, 2012, 11:21 am
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Yes, I'm sure there's no chance Hoyer and Theo are taking the
high road on this and not revealing what really happened.
That's totally conclusive.
#Post#: 87102--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: ticohans
Date: August 1, 2012, 11:22 am
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I agree that, if there was any frustration with Dempster, Theo
and Jed aren't saying anything. Not suggesting there was
frustration, just saying that our front office is too classy to
air its dirty laundry. My guess is Theo learned a lot of what
NOT to do during his time in Boston.
#Post#: 87105--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Cactus
Date: August 1, 2012, 11:35 am
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Dempster: I never turned down Braves deal
HTML http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/post/_/id/12394/dempster-i-never-turned-down-braves-deal?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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#Post#: 87107--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Clarkaddison
Date: August 1, 2012, 11:41 am
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I think it's time to move this thread to the Rangers board.
#Post#: 87108--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Deeg
Date: August 1, 2012, 11:42 am
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--- Quote ---
> It got leaked out that I said yes and then I said no. And even
after I said no -- I never officially said no...
--- End Quote ---
Uh-huh...
#Post#: 87112--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: StrikeZone
Date: August 1, 2012, 12:08 pm
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He couldn't possibly be trying to rehab his image in order to
save the donations to his charitable foundation.
He lied and is changing his tune.
#Post#: 87115--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Deeg
Date: August 1, 2012, 12:12 pm
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If you set aside the "he said, she said" portion of the argument
- and we'll never know the full truth of that because Theo won't
throw Dempster under the bus - the gist of Demp's argument seems
to be "I was totally amenable to going anywhere to help the
Cubs. I just wanted to wait till 3:55 on the 31st to see if the
Dodgers would cave. So any trade that didn't happen isn't my
fault, it's their fault for not being willing to wait." That's
totally disingenuous on the face of it, and proves that for him
this is really about trying to dick the Cubs around while still
preserving his carefully cultivated nice guy image.
#Post#: 87117--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: JR
Date: August 1, 2012, 12:14 pm
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--- Quote from: Clarkaddison link ---
>
> I think it's time to move this thread to the Rangers board.
>
--- End Quote ---
Amen.
#Post#: 87118--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: ticohans
Date: August 1, 2012, 12:16 pm
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I think Demp's account sounds pretty reasonable.
Cubs traded him for Delgado. Demp said he needed time to approve
it and wanted the Cubs to see if there was any potential with
the Dodgers (that last part is an addition on my part that seems
fair - it is consistent with reports and squares completely with
what Hoyer and Demp have said). Braves weren't willing to wait,
so they pulled offer off the table. Demp's indecision cost the
Cubs the deal, but that's different from saying "I won't go to
ATL."
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