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#Post#: 86838--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Playtwo
Date: July 31, 2012, 3:47 pm
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Dempster was exercizing his rights and doing what he perceived
to be the right thing for him. I don't know why that's so hard
to accept.
#Post#: 86845--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Cubsin
Date: July 31, 2012, 3:58 pm
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As a 10/5 player, Dempster had every right to veto any trade he
didn't want to accept. But that doesn't give him the right to
lie to fans (I'll accept a trade to a contender to help the
Cubs) or the front office (Atlanta's my #2 choice).
#Post#: 86846--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: guest61
Date: July 31, 2012, 3:59 pm
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Im just glad the mother fucker is gone.
#Post#: 86853--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Jes Beard
Date: July 31, 2012, 4:20 pm
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All of this helps to underscore why you now so seldom have
players stay with one team their entire career.
Not just FA, and salary structures, but the need to move someone
before they become a 5/10 player.
#Post#: 86867--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: ticohans
Date: July 31, 2012, 5:12 pm
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I agree we just need to get over Demp, but I don't think there's
any way to spin this deal as being anything remotely close to
Delgado. That just is what it is.
#Post#: 86871--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Reb
Date: July 31, 2012, 5:20 pm
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--- Quote from: ticohans link ---
>
> I agree we just need to get over Demp, but I don't think
there's any way to spin this deal as being anything remotely
close to Delgado. That just is what it is.
>
>
--- End Quote ---
Can't argue with that but keep in mind that we don't get
Vizcaino from Braves if Dempster traded to Braves earlier. Will
be interesting to see how Vizcaino pans out compared to Delgado
down the road. Of course, we will never know what Cubs might
have received elsewhere for Maholm.
#Post#: 86892--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: guest61
Date: July 31, 2012, 5:53 pm
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Keith Law says he'd take Vizcaino over Delgado by a mile.
#Post#: 86901--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Ray
Date: July 31, 2012, 6:10 pm
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--- Quote from: JIGGY link ---
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> Keith Law says he'd take Vizcaino over Delgado by a mile.
>
--- End Quote ---
I would, too.
#Post#: 86911--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Deeg
Date: July 31, 2012, 6:42 pm
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Practically every publication had Delgado and Vizcaino 2-3
behind Teheran going into the season, and it seems to have been
about evenly split who was higher. It's probably fair to say
Vizcaino had the higher upside, and Delgado seemed like the
safer bet.
Since then, Delgado has pitched acceptably in the Majors and
Vizcaino has gone under the knife, so anyone backing Delgado
certainly had no reason to change their mind.
#Post#: 86918--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ryan Dempster
DIR By: Reb
Date: July 31, 2012, 6:59 pm
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If it's debatable whether Delgado or Vizcaino is a better asset
and you can only have one, then why any lament that the Delgado
deal fell apart?
Then, it boils down to whether Cubs would have effectively got
more than the Rangers duo for Maholm and Johnson, no? That is
probably also debatable.
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