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#Post#: 3061--------------------------------------------------
Re: On the Farm
DIR By: craig
Date: April 23, 2011, 10:12 am
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Thanks, chris. That's a fairly cautious, muted report.
Prospect but not huge, perhaps about as low as you can go for a
guy who's started like this. Probably reflects his limited
fastball. Or, maybe Goldstein isn't totally up on him yet.
The interesting thing is that he calls it a "true plus curve";
AzPhil called it a killer "splitter"; Dave's scouting friend
called it "knuckle curve".
Whatever it is is whatever it is, but it sounds like when it's
working it's a plus pitch.
But it seems pretty likely, as was true last year, that if his
breaking ball isn't clicking and if he's not locating really
well, that probably his stuff will look pedestrian. like
anybody, it's a function of control and stuff, and his control
will probably need to continue to be well above average.
#Post#: 3076--------------------------------------------------
Re: On the Farm
DIR By: JR
Date: April 23, 2011, 11:21 am
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I know this is a minor quibble, but it's something that I think
shows the lack of creativity in the Cubs organization.
But why isn't Luis Montanez or Marquez Smith playing any first
base? Right now Darwin Barney is more or less the platoon
partner for Carlos Pena. Playing first base ought to be an easy
transition for either one of them, and since it'd give them a
chance to get to the big leagues more quickly, either would
probably jump at the chance to try first base if anyone bothered
to ask.
The Cubs just don't think outside the box enough on things like
that.
#Post#: 3079--------------------------------------------------
Re: On the Farm
DIR By: Clarkaddison
Date: April 23, 2011, 11:44 am
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I remember a Cubs pitching prospect who won a lot of games in
the minor leagues but was downgraded by scouts and observers
because his stuff wasn't exceptional. So nobody complained when
he was traded to the Marlins for Juan Pierre.
I wonder what ever happened to the guy.
#Post#: 3080--------------------------------------------------
Re: On the Farm
DIR By: Deeg
Date: April 23, 2011, 11:45 am
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What are all y'alls take on Rafael Dolis? He never seems to get
talked about here, but he's starting to get lots of buzz in the
mainstream press - "97 MPH heat, devastating slider", etc. But
his overall minor-league stats are hardly impressive.
#Post#: 3110--------------------------------------------------
Re: On the Farm
DIR By: Tom Hudson
Date: April 23, 2011, 1:01 pm
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--- Quote from: JR link ---
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> Right now Darwin Barney is more or less the platoon partner
for Carlos Pena.
>
--- End Quote ---
I think you meant Jeff Baker, right?
#Post#: 3123--------------------------------------------------
Re: On the Farm
DIR By: craig
Date: April 23, 2011, 1:27 pm
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Tom, I think he means Barney.
Versus LHP, Baker is going to start either way, the question is
who's the second guy. Pena, starting versus LHP? Or Barney,
starting vs LHP? Or Lou Montanez or somebody else from Iowa?
I agree with JR that there ought to be somebody with more bat
versus LHP than either Pena or Barney, and that it would make
sense to give Montanez some time at 1B.
Heh, who knows, if Rebel Ridling keeps hitting at AA for another
two months, perhaps he could get that opportunity.
#Post#: 3126--------------------------------------------------
Re: On the Farm
DIR By: JR
Date: April 23, 2011, 1:32 pm
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--- Quote from: Tom Hudson link ---
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> I think you meant Jeff Baker, right?
>
--- End Quote ---
No I meant Barney.
Baker is always an automatic start against LHP. The choice
lately has been whether to keep Pena or Barney in the lineup
against lefties, and Quade lately has been choosing to keep
Barney.
The Cubs need to think of a way to do better than that. Pena
really doesn't need to face lefties, but keeping Barney in the
lineup on those days is not the most optimal way to go about it.
#Post#: 3128--------------------------------------------------
Re: On the Farm
DIR By: Tom Hudson
Date: April 23, 2011, 1:32 pm
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So, seriously, the suggestion is that against lefties Montanez
should be in the lineup instead of Barney? Maybe Barney will
tank at some point, but he certainly has not yet, and I find it
hard to imagine Montanez would be doing better than Barney is at
this point.
But, hey, the grass is always greener, so I'm probably wrong.
#Post#: 3131--------------------------------------------------
Re: On the Farm
DIR By: JR
Date: April 23, 2011, 1:34 pm
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Or what craig said.
#Post#: 3146--------------------------------------------------
Re: On the Farm
DIR By: Tom Hudson
Date: April 23, 2011, 1:47 pm
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I really don't understand why Barney continues to get such
little respect. He may well tank, but he certainly hasn't yet.
Why would anybody want to replace him in the lineup with someone
else (much less Montanez) right now?
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