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#Post#: 2774--------------------------------------------------
Re: On the Farm
DIR By: Deeg
Date: April 22, 2011, 2:43 am
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That's my thinking. It's become the norm for teams to keep
their top prospects at AA and populate AAA with AAAA guys, but
Jackson is kind of different in that he's already torched AA and
has nothing to prove there.
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Re: On the Farm
DIR By: craig
Date: April 22, 2011, 8:08 am
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> That's my thinking. It's become the norm for teams to keep
their top prospects at AA and populate AAA with AAAA guys, but
Jackson is kind of different in that he's already torched AA and
has nothing to prove there.
>
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I don't think I agree, really. He's torched AA for two weeks
this April, and it's only in the last few days with much XBH
power.
Last year, he hit .276 with an .831 OPS at AA, with much of that
damage during his first hot splash there. After his first five
games, I think his OPS was sub-.800. Perfectly excellent
developmentally for a young 21-year-old going through his first
July-August as a full-season guy and with some tired legs toward
the end, I'm not criticizing at all. Just that it wasn't really
"torching" by any stretch.
this is. I've got no problem with a promotion, but neither
would I have any problem with letting him sustain this for a
while. It may be that he's just too good and will remain
sustainably too good for AA. But it wouldn't bother me if he
stayed there and showed that he could sustain it for a while.
I'm assuming Jackson is for real, and that this isn't a Chad
Meyers/Felix Pie/Matt Murton/Jake Fox kind of thing. But if
he's for real, staying there and sustaining won't hurt him any.
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Re: On the Farm
DIR By: JR
Date: April 22, 2011, 9:33 am
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--- Quote from: Deeg link ---
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> That's my thinking. It's become the norm for teams to keep
their top prospects at AA and populate AAA with AAAA guys, but
Jackson is kind of different in that he's already torched AA and
has nothing to prove there.
>
--- End Quote ---
I disagree a little bit with what a lot of you guys are saying
about the jump from Double-A to Triple-A. While there might be
more "prospects" in Double-A, I think it's important to remember
that a lot of players considered "prospects" there like the
Dwayne Bacon's and Jaisen Randolph's of the world just aren't
very good players. Players like Bobby Scales, Brad Snyder, and
Bryan LaHair may not be "prospects" anymore, but they're
certainly better players than most on the Smokies roster or in
the Southern League.
The quality of play from Double-A to Triple-A is a pretty
significant one I think. There are a lot more players in
Triple-A who are either experienced major league players or are
major league caliber but haven't had a full chance to show it.
It's a significant jump facing 28 to 32 year old players who
know what they're doing as opposed to leagues where David Kelton
or Richard Lewis can look like world beaters or where you are
facing teams that are still devoting lots of playing time to
"prospects" like Jaisen Randolph, Jeff Goldbach, or Jason Smith.
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Re: On the Farm
DIR By: craig
Date: April 22, 2011, 10:04 am
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Those are good points, JR. All the AAA guys were good AA guys
once.
Certainly AA has more big talents, guys who will eventually
outmatch AAA and move on to successful big-league careers. You
don't often go through an AAA rotation with Dolis, Cabrera, and
McNutt all throwing 95 or better. AAA journeymen have some
limits and are there for a reason, so certainly the best of AA
are more talented than AAA people. But the overall quality of
AA isn't as good. There are a lot of AA guys who will never be
good enough to become AAA journeymen.
One change I think is that Tennessee now seems to be a pretty
strong hitters park. Back in the WTenn days when they had the
bad CF background, the difference in hitter-friendliness of AA
and PCL seemed enormous. If a guy could hit for WTenn, I'd
figure he'd usually hit in AAA. But there were tons of
pitchers with good numbers in Pringles who got badly exposed in
PCL.
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Re: On the Farm
DIR By: craig
Date: April 22, 2011, 12:43 pm
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HTML http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/prospect-hot-sheet/2011/2611613.html
HTML http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/prospect-hot-sheet/2011/2611613.html
No. 6 BRETT JACKSON
On Ha: "Cubs CF Jae-Hoon Ha has caught scouts' eyes in the
Florida State League with eye-popping numbers to start the
season. He is hitting .403/.406/.645 through 14 games with a
pair of home runs. He has not drawn a walk yet and is only
2-for-7 on stolen base attempts, but manager Buddy Bailey is
pleased with the 20-year old's aggressive approach. "He's got
one gait and it's always aggressive," Bailey said. "To me, it's
the perfect thing for a young player. Players learn when they're
aggressive.""
Interesting comment. In terms of baserunning and base-stealing,
I think the comment may have a lot of merit.
In terms of hitting, I'd think pitch selection and plate
discipline would kind of require some practice taking some bad
or borderline pitches. But, I'm just a fan and not a trained
professional baseball teacher like Bailey and the other guys
selected and hired by Hendry and Fleita.
It may perhaps provide some context for the routinely low-walk
low-IsoD profile for so many prospects coming out of Daytona
(Barney, Lemahieu, Vitters, now Ha...) Clearly they weren't
pushed to take too many pitches or pad their OBP with walks at
Daytona. Perhaps their low walk rates won't mean they don't
have the physical capacity, and that if at some late point in
their career/development they are persuaded that taking more
pitches and more walks is very important and beneficial (to
their careers and to their team and to winning...), perhaps some
of them have more capacity that we expect?
My feeling has always been that for high-K guys who don't have
the gift of contact, trying to walk more and take more pitches
might never be realistic (Corey, Harvey, Dopirak....) But for
the many pure-contact guys that we've had lately (Barney,
Vitters, Lemahieu, Ha, Szczur, Silva...), I still have the
notion that they might eventually have the capacity to take more
walks as major leaguers than they did in A-ball.
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Re: On the Farm
DIR By: JR
Date: April 22, 2011, 12:55 pm
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HTML http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/prospect-hot-sheet/2011/2611613.html
HTML http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/prospect-hot-sheet/2011/2611613.html
> But, I'm just a fan and not a trained professional baseball
teacher like Bailey and the other guys selected and hired by
Hendry and Fleita.
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Awesome.
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Re: On the Farm
DIR By: JR
Date: April 22, 2011, 1:19 pm
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HTML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg5gPnUdbc8
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Re: On the Farm
DIR By: StrikeZone
Date: April 22, 2011, 1:23 pm
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Hey, look, JR found a clip from when SNL was funny.
#Post#: 2874--------------------------------------------------
Re: On the Farm
DIR By: mO
Date: April 22, 2011, 2:06 pm
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Phil Hartman was the best.
#Post#: 2877--------------------------------------------------
Re: On the Farm
DIR By: CurtOne
Date: April 22, 2011, 2:16 pm
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Yeah, but which of those SNL guys is in our farm system?
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