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       #Post#: 529473--------------------------------------------------
       Trade Deadline 2026
   DIR By: Dave23
       Date: July 17, 2026, 3:26 pm
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       The cutoff is Monday, August 3rd at 5:00pm CT.
       #Post#: 529474--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Trade Deadline 2026
   DIR By: Dave23
       Date: July 17, 2026, 3:28 pm
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       Scenario 1:
       The Mets call and say they are looking to package Freddy Peralta
       and Luke Weaver.
       What should we submit as our best offer?
       #Post#: 529479--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Trade Deadline 2026
   DIR By: Deeg
       Date: July 17, 2026, 5:59 pm
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       --- Quote from: Dave23 link ---
       >
       > Scenario 1:
       >
       > The Mets call and say they are looking to package Freddy
       Peralta and Luke Weaver.
       >
       > What should we submit as our best offer?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       With Peralta you're betting on a rental who's been mediocre all
       season returning to form over the course of two months. I would
       be very judicious in what I offered for him. Weaver is a good
       setup man with a year of control, so obviously adds some value
       to the deal. Maybe Shaw and Kepley.
       #Post#: 529495--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Trade Deadline 2026
   DIR By: Reb
       Date: July 18, 2026, 4:04 am
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       --- Quote from: Deeg link ---
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       > …Maybe Shaw and Kepley.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Kepley is a trade candidate but Mets are said to have five of
       their players off-limits….and three of their five are OFers. So,
       guessing that Kepley is unlikely to be a fit there.
       Shaw is a 3-WAR player (averaging career bWAR and fWAR) who has
       a bunch of control years and is way too valuable to trade for a
       rental SP not named Skubal. Cubs should, and guessing will, hold
       on to him until eventually can find a match for a similarly
       controllable SP.
       Think that vis a vis Mets Cubs should just focus on Peralta.
       Weaver would be a good get, but makes a trade much harder to
       pull off, especially at $12.5 in 2027 knowing that Cubs hate to
       pay a non-closer reliever that kind of money.
       If Mets actually want Kepley for Peralta, would consider that.
       Triantos or Long as alternatives. Mets probably like somebody in
       Cubs system now in A ball too who’s down the ladder.  Not too
       interested in trading Ramirez for a rental either but would not
       shock me if Cubs offered him up—maybe if Mets added a lesser
       reliever.
       #Post#: 529519--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Trade Deadline 2026
   DIR By: JeffH
       Date: July 19, 2026, 7:23 pm
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       Unless we're talking about acquiring Skubal, I'm not too
       interested in trading for a starting pitcher.  Anybody else you
       get you'll be looking to pull in the fifth inning of a playoff
       game, if not earlier.
       If we can, let's add two or three relievers who we'll be willing
       to pitch in the later innings of a playoff game.
       While they've shown a lot of moxie, I'm not very interested in
       having Trent Thornton or Tyler Ferguson pitching leverage
       innings in a playoff game.  And, let's be honest, pretty much
       all playoff innings are "leverage".
       Unfortunately, Jed's top bullpen acquisitions - Harvey and Maton
       - are likely to be useless in the postseason.
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       Re: Trade Deadline 2026
   DIR By: Deeg
       Date: July 19, 2026, 8:08 pm
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       I think you can get a rental SP you might use in the postseason,
       somebody like Gray or Bubic, without giving up an absolute ton.
       Gray specifically may be in doubt now that Boston is playing
       decent but you have to at least consider it.
       #Post#: 529523--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Trade Deadline 2026
   DIR By: Deeg
       Date: July 19, 2026, 8:16 pm
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       Here's another name to consider for the Cubs: Jack Flaherty.
       They've had rumored interest in the past. Topline numbers suck,
       but peripherals suggest bad luck both this season and last.
       Velocity is fine and still striking out a ton of guys. As a
       rental I can't imagine the cost would be astronomical and he
       might easily wind up a top-4 SP for the Cubs.
       #Post#: 529524--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Trade Deadline 2026
   DIR By: JeffH
       Date: July 19, 2026, 8:39 pm
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       A defensible position for sure, but let's get some leverage
       relievers.
       #Post#: 529530--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Trade Deadline 2026
   DIR By: craig
       Date: July 20, 2026, 9:59 am
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       Agree with you, Jeff.  I'd prioritize relief help.  For example,
       with Mets, I'd rather add Weaver than Peralta.
       Playoffs are predominantly 3-starters.  4th starter might get
       two starts if you both roll to the World Series, and have long
       series.  To me, unless you get a clear upgrade on your top-3, a
       trade isn't worth spending much for your playoff rotation.  And
       the price for a clear top-3 playoff starter, that price is too
       exorbitant for my tastes.  I hope we don't bother.
       You aren't going to get a high-end starter without paying a
       zillion in prospect value.  Peralta hanging at 4.66 ERA, 15 HR.
       Flaherty, 4.48, averaging 4.57 IP/start.  To me those now seem
       to be JAG guys.  Assad is 4.11, the highest of his career, and
       that largely built off a couple of disaster outings.  (Applies
       to most pitchers.). But yeah, on a given playoff game, seems to
       me random whether you'll get a better start from Flaherty,
       Peralta, Assad, Taillon, Cabrera, Rea, or maybe even Peterson.
       Heh heh, for all I know, you might even get a better start from
       Caple or Beck, who knows?  And regardless of which of those 6
       you'd choose, I don't think you'll be thinking
       "our-starter-is-better" no matter which of Dodgers, Brewers, or
       Braves best-three-starters you'll face.
       I'm not very motivated for rotation.
       #Post#: 529531--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Trade Deadline 2026
   DIR By: craig
       Date: July 20, 2026, 10:03 am
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       Indirectly, adding a starter pushes somebody to relief.  I think
       replacing Assad with Taillon downgrades the rotation.  But Assad
       might end up being super valuable in relief.  Beats me, maybe
       adding an outside starter would push Peterson to situational
       relief; no reason to expect so, but perhaps he'd be better than
       Pomeranz or Thielbar.
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