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       #Post#: 51939--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012 NFL Draft
       By: Pekin Date: January 14, 2012, 9:49 pm
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       We need a true #1 WR first.
       By the way Greg Oslen is no Vernon Davis and he should not be
       mentioned after this in the same sentence as Graham or
       Gronkowski.
       #Post#: 51951--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012 NFL Draft
       By: Jackiejokeman Date: January 14, 2012, 11:04 pm
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       [quote author=Pekin link=topic=64.msg51939#msg51939
       date=1326599398]
       We need a true #1 WR first.
       By the way Greg Oslen is no Vernon Davis and he should not be
       mentioned after this in the same sentence as Graham or
       Gronkowski.
       [/quote]
       But you get the idea, right Duck?
       #Post#: 51954--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012 NFL Draft
       By: Pekin Date: January 14, 2012, 11:18 pm
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       We need offensive weapons I agree.
       #Post#: 51972--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012 NFL Draft
       By: WshflThinking Date: January 15, 2012, 6:15 am
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       I dont care if you had 10 more offensive weapons. Unless you fix
       that OLine Cuttler is going to be on his butt holding the ball.
       You cant get the ball to those weapons laying on the ground.
       #Post#: 51995--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012 NFL Draft
       By: navigator Date: January 15, 2012, 11:51 am
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       I tend to agree but I noticed a lot recently with the better
       teams, especially NE last night a lot of times in less than 2
       secs the QB has the ball out of his hands. A DL untouched can
       barely get there in 2 secs so most stiffs can hold a guy up for
       2 secs. The key is that Welker and Branch and Hernandez and
       Gronkowski  and Driver and Jennings and Nelson and Colston and
       guys like that can get open when our guys can't.
       #Post#: 52060--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012 NFL Draft
       By: Sportster Date: January 15, 2012, 7:04 pm
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       Well guys,the motto holds....defense, at present anyhow, still
       wins championships. Some very very good offenses fell by the
       wayside this year,only one remains in the Pats and wouldn't
       surprise me one little bit if the Ravens eat em alive on D. With
       that in mind, we still do desperately need a couple very good
       wideouts, same on the offensive line...but after that? Hit
       DEFENSE with all they got! I'd rather see our team be fantastic
       on D than on O. We have a QB that can get us there....he needs
       protection and targets...but what I'm sure we'd all like to see
       is one helluva dominant D.....get us there whosit GM!!! get us
       there....
       #Post#: 52066--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012 NFL Draft
       By: navigator Date: January 15, 2012, 7:28 pm
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       I thought the Pats D played very good against Denver.
       Houston with Schaub would be playing NE next week. That game had
       two good defenses.
       #Post#: 52084--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012 NFL Draft
       By: Jackiejokeman Date: January 15, 2012, 11:26 pm
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       Well we ranked 6th against the rush and 28th against the pass.
       So draw your own conclusions as to what part of the defense we
       need to beef up.
       I'd take our 2 #3's and go cornerback ... however a T.E. in
       that round wouldnt hurt either.
       N.E. is putting up unreal numbers with the two T.E. set.
       They are putting Hernandez in at RB and he is getting yards.
       You could almost say that N.E. has given up on the WR position
       outside of Walker.
       Did the Packers suffer from having a week off?
       Did we suffer last year from having the week off?
       Did the NYG's come in fresh at Lambou with no time off?
       Did the Packers come in fresh at Soldiers last year with no
       time off?
       Judge it for yourselves.
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       Re: 2012 NFL Draft
       By: Sportster Date: January 15, 2012, 11:29 pm
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       Yea I don't know about the top seed deal...isn't panning out
       very well lately...NFC side anyway....
       #Post#: 52158--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2012 NFL Draft
       By: dallasbear Date: January 16, 2012, 3:08 pm
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       I tend to agree but I noticed a lot recently with the better
       teams, especially NE last night a lot of times in less than 2
       secs the QB has the ball out of his hands. A DL untouched can
       barely get there in 2 secs so most stiffs can hold a guy up for
       2 secs. The key is that Welker and Branch and Hernandez and
       Gronkowski  and Driver and Jennings and Nelson and Colston and
       guys like that can get open when our guys can't.
       Certainly a big part of throwing to guys quickly is the talent
       at the WR spot.  But that assumes you work on that in practice
       and that its in your playbook.  It wasn't in Martz'.
       The other part is a QB that has the arm and the confidence to
       throw it into a small window.  Cutler can do that but not quite
       as well as Rodgers, Brees and Brady.
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