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       #Post#: 487891--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
       By: Grizzlybear34 Date: February 28, 2024, 5:14 am
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       Whatever Poles decides is career defining for him.  2017,
       Trubisky surged up the charts, and we know how that ended.  What
       if we draft Williams, and Daniels ends up being the one?  Or
       Maye? Or to be named?
       What if Fields is dealt and he reaches his potential with all of
       the God given tools he possesses?  My greatest fear is this
       scenario.  Steve Young didn't throw for greater than 2500 yards
       until year 7!  It is a different league now, but the point is he
       blossomed way late, even though he had every tool.  We can't
       wait 4 more years, but that is the point.
       I guess, what has a greater chance of happening?  Fields
       reaching his potential, or one of the 6 prospects in the draft
       being that guy?
       Career defining for Poles.
       #Post#: 487895--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
       By: vj Date: February 28, 2024, 5:46 am
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       <i>“The hot topic,” Poles said. “The 1st pick. The quarterback
       situation. Contrary to reports out there, I have no master plan
       to present everyone today. This is an opportunity for us to
       continue to gather information, learn about the different
       players in the draft, listen to what opportunities could come up
       and then, at the end of the day, we’re gonna to make the best
       decision that we can for the Chicago Bears. <b>It will not be
       based on fear of what could happen with this, what could happen
       with that. We’re gonna put our information together and make the
       best decision</b>."</i>
       I like that about Poles.  I fully expect this team to be at the
       very least in the wild card even in this division no matter who
       is the Bears QB. The Bears are not your typical shitty team with
       the number 1 pick.
       #Post#: 487899--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
       By: vj Date: February 28, 2024, 7:10 am
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       With the JF1/ATL rumors starting to percolate, I was running
       through some options...
       Move up to 8 and their 2nd (Pick 43).  Probably not realistic,
       but it would be sweet to move up.
       Or stay at 9, grab their 2nd, and a future 2nd/3rd.  And
       probably add some back and forth window dressing in the lower
       rounds between both teams.
       #Post#: 487902--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
       By: vj Date: February 28, 2024, 8:19 am
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       Talking points on lock.  Does no medical testing mean no measure
       at the combine?  Even Young had to drink gallons of water to get
       to that mythical 200.
       <a
       href="
  HTML https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39614907/caleb-williams-intrigued-bears-commanders-top-draft">Caleb<br
       />Williams intrigued by Bears, Commanders at top of draft
       #Post#: 487903--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
       By: wmljohn Date: February 28, 2024, 8:51 am
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       What if....
       Everyone pumps up Drake Maye as the best QB to draft.
       Washington trades up to #1 and gives up this years #1 and This
       years #2 and Next years #1.  The take Drake Maye and Chicago
       takes CW at #2.  How would that sit with everyone?  It would
       blow the minds of the draftniks.
       #Post#: 487910--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
       By: dallasbear Date: February 28, 2024, 1:29 pm
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       [quote author=VJ link=topic=634.msg487899#msg487899
       date=1709125837]
       With the JF1/ATL rumors starting to percolate, I was running
       through some options...
       Move up to 8 and their 2nd (Pick 43).  Probably not realistic,
       but it would be sweet to move up.
       Or stay at 9, grab their 2nd, and a future 2nd/3rd.  And
       probably add some back and forth window dressing in the lower
       rounds between both teams.
       [/quote]
       If the Bears trade JF then I would hope they get a late 1 or a
       2.  I would think anything in 2025 would be conditional.
       There is also the possibility that the high pick pick is in 2025
       and the 2024 pick is much lower.     See the Sam Darnold trade
       in 2021.
       #Post#: 487916--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
       By: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX Date: February 28, 2024, 3:28 pm
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       [quote author=wmljohn link=topic=634.msg487903#msg487903
       date=1709131875]
       What if....
       Everyone pumps up Drake Maye as the best QB to draft.
       Washington trades up to #1 and gives up this years #1 and This
       years #2 and Next years #1.  The take Drake Maye and Chicago
       takes CW at #2.  How would that sit with everyone?  It would
       blow the minds of the draftniks.
       [/quote]
       It would blow the minds already blown on every other street
       corner in Frisco with a broke off needle in their arm.  ;D
       #Post#: 487919--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
       By: WshflThinking Date: February 28, 2024, 3:48 pm
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       Comments wanted on this idea:
  HTML https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-revamp-offense-chad-reuter-3-round-mock-draft-caleb-williams-marvin-harrison/?itm_medium=recirc&itm_source=taboola&itm_campaign=internal&itm_content=BelowArticleFeed-SMG
       I am still a fan of Brock Bowers. So in this deal we part with
       JF to the Pats for their #3 and we also part with our #8 as a
       gift we get their #3 pick which would give us 3 and 8 in the 3rd
       round.
       I am still liking the idea of Bowers on the right side instead
       of a one dimention TE on the right side. I also am not sold on
       Marvin Harrison either.. I like the Nabers kid from LSU better.
       #Post#: 487921--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
       By: vj Date: February 28, 2024, 4:20 pm
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       <i>From The Athletic</i>
       <a
       href="
  HTML https://theathletic.com/5301341/2024/02/28/caleb-williams-quarterback-nfl-draft-ownership/">As<br
       />NFL draft nears, Caleb Williams and team intend on owning the
       process
       #Post#: 487923--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
       By: dallasbear Date: February 28, 2024, 4:23 pm
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       [quote author=WshflThinking link=topic=634.msg487919#msg487919
       date=1709156916]
       Comments wanted on this idea:
  HTML https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-revamp-offense-chad-reuter-3-round-mock-draft-caleb-williams-marvin-harrison/?itm_medium=recirc&itm_source=taboola&itm_campaign=internal&itm_content=BelowArticleFeed-SMG
       I am still a fan of Brock Bowers. So in this deal we part with
       JF to the Pats for their #3 and we also part with our #8 as a
       gift we get their #3 pick which would give us 3 and 8 in the 3rd
       round.
       I am still liking the idea of Bowers on the right side instead
       of a one dimention TE on the right side. I also am not sold on
       Marvin Harrison either.. I like the Nabers kid from LSU better.
       [/quote]
       No.
       New England's #3 is worth 2200 points and our #8 is 1350.  Thats
       850 which is worth a middle first rounder just going off the
       charts.  It's probably worth more since franchise QBs are at
       stake.    And I'm not hearing anyone wanting Fields for a mid
       1st rounder.  Plus New England might just take whats leftover at
       QB at 3:  Maye or Daniels.
       I know everyone talks about getting another threat at TE.  But
       Bears can get a late round pick and/or a free agent to do that.
       But I must admit Bowers at 9 might be tempting.
       MUCH  bigger needs in round 3...let's see....defensive lineman
       (need depth at DE and DT), free safety, WR (even if we draft
       MHJ), and center.  Also have needs for a  backup guard and
       backup HB.
       I like Odunze a bit better than Nabors due to his size.  But
       they are very close.  Neither are MHJ's class.
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