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       #Post#: 490972--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
   DIR By: dallasbear
       Date: April 15, 2024, 3:00 am
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       --- Quote from: WshflThinking link ---
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       > Here is some news,like it or not
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       >
  HTML https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2024/04/13/chicago-bears-meeting-with-edge-rusher-jared-verse-nfl-draft/?newsletter_origin=bearswire.usatoday.com&newsletter_post_position=2&email=***redacted***
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       Both Odunze and Verse will be there at 9.  Bears might be able
       to get someone to trade with them for the right to draft Odunze
       and then later pick up Verse a few picks later.
       Turner appears to be rated higher just about everywhere but
       Verse may be more of an Eberflus DE.
       #Post#: 490980--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
   DIR By: vj
       Date: April 15, 2024, 9:17 am
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       I like how Poles is building up the team on both sides of the
       ball.  When Orton managed the Bears to 9 wins as a rookie, a
       dominant defense carried him.  CW is a galaxy ahead of Orton
       skill wise and has superior weapons.  He will not be asked to do
       too much which would ease his learning curve and hopefully still
       lead the Bears to wins.  Most of the running around and
       improvisation at USC on his part was a necessity because of a
       poor OL.  The Bears OL is not elite like the majority of teams
       in the NFL.  But it should be better.
       And while it remains to be seen if the Eberflus D will come
       close to Prime LovieRon D, it should be solid based on last
       year.  If Eberflus gets his way, a DE is at play at 9 or a trade
       down for sure.  Recall the video where Poles looks up at the
       screen and said if this guy is there, they getting him.
       Eberflus licking his chops said, "yeah, let's get two of them."
       I'm starting to resign to the option that the Bears might indeed
       use Odunze as bait.
       #Post#: 490982--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
   DIR By: vj
       Date: April 15, 2024, 9:41 am
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       BTW, in the unlikely event that Turner is there at 9, I would
       hope Poles would swat away the physical traits that Tampa Two
       disciples tend to cling to and just get the BPA in Turner.  And
       after trading down, I would probably lean Murphy over Verse but
       that's just me.  I see Murphy with a higher ceiling at a
       position of need even with Dex and Pickens waiting in the wings.
       #Post#: 490988--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
   DIR By: davebear
       Date: April 15, 2024, 11:37 am
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       I worry about Turner, so to speak.
       The analyst, I think his name is Fields Yates, says he watched
       all of Turner and Latuu’s sacks.
       Turner’s we’re mostly clean up or other rushers forcing the
       quarterback off his mark .
       Latuu got straight to the quarterback at the snap and arrived at
       the quarterback as he was setting his feet.  Of course there’s
       the neck fusion surgery.
       I’m wondering if getting a 3 tech tackle, supposedly the key to
       the Tampa Two, might be a better move in a trade back.
       #Post#: 490991--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
   DIR By: dallasbear
       Date: April 15, 2024, 12:01 pm
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       --- Quote from: davebear link ---
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       > I worry about Turner, so to speak.
       >
       > The analyst, I think his name is Fields Yates, says he watched
       all of Turner and Latuu’s sacks.
       >
       > Turner’s we’re mostly clean up or other rushers forcing the
       quarterback off his mark .
       >
       > Latuu got straight to the quarterback at the snap and arrived
       at the quarterback as he was setting his feet.  Of course
       there’s the neck fusion surgery.
       >
       > I’m wondering if getting a 3 tech tackle, supposedly the key
       to the Tampa Two, might be a better move in a trade back.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Don't worry about Turner:
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP8RwY1aFOA
       The guy is a freak athletically.  4.46 40  and 40" vertical.
       He is a little bit undersized at 245 lbs.
       Latu is probably more advanced skill-wise but Turner has the
       most potential given his athleticism.
       #Post#: 491178--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: April 17, 2024, 11:01 am
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       I see some might not like this, but it doesnt surprise me. I
       like it, but had hopes for a slight tradedown from #9.
  HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-mock-nfl-draft-3-231605073.html
       I really expected Turner to be gone @ #8.
       Differnt draft, different day
       Bring on draft day, I am getting sick of all these daily changes
       #Post#: 491187--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
   DIR By: dallasbear
       Date: April 17, 2024, 11:49 am
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       --- Quote from: WshflThinking link ---
       >
       > I see some might not like this, but it doesnt surprise me. I
       like it, but had hopes for a slight tradedown from #9.
       >
       >
  HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-mock-nfl-draft-3-231605073.html
       >
       > I really expected Turner to be gone @ #8.
       >
       > Differnt draft, different day
       >
       > Bring on draft day, I am getting sick of all these daily
       changes
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I still expect Odunze to be there at 9 and not Turner, but who
       knows?   Lots of chatter about the Bears trading down for one of
       the big tackles.
       But if Turner is there at 9 I think the Bears should snag him -
       defense could be top 10.
       #Post#: 491189--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
   DIR By: JeffH
       Date: April 17, 2024, 12:06 pm
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       Odunze available at #9 is one popular mock draft thing that I
       don't believe will happen.
       If he's there at #8 and the Falcons don't want him, their GM's
       phone will blow up with trade offers.
       #Post#: 491193--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
   DIR By: dallasbear
       Date: April 17, 2024, 1:31 pm
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       --- Quote from: JeffH link ---
       >
       > Odunze available at #9 is one popular mock draft thing that I
       don't believe will happen.
       >
       > If he's there at #8 and the Falcons don't want him, their GM's
       phone will blow up with trade offers.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That's fine then Turner drops to 9 and the Bears either take him
       or their phone blows up too.
       #Post#: 491228--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: April 17, 2024, 4:01 pm
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       --- Quote from: dallasbear link ---
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       > I still expect Odunze to be there at 9 and not Turner, but who
       knows?   Lots of chatter about the Bears trading down for one of
       the big tackles.
       >
       > But if Turner is there at 9 I think the Bears should snag him
       - [B]defense could be top 10.[/B]
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Ding, Ding, Ding  Definitely agree with that
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