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       #Post#: 487112--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
       By: dallasbear Date: February 12, 2024, 11:43 am
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       [quote author=JeffH link=topic=634.msg487072#msg487072
       date=1707614608]
       The real dream scenario, no matter how it happens, is that the
       Chicago Bears finally draft a quarterback who becomes an
       excellent player, a true "franchise quarterback".
       The fantasy dream scenario is that the Bears have someone other
       than Caleb Williams rated as QB1 in the 2024 draft, they are
       right in their scouting, and the Commanders give up a ridiculous
       package to move up one spot.  The Bears gin up a frenzy for
       Fields in trade.
       They draft Maye (or whoever), a top center, a pass rusher to
       complement Sweat, more interior line help (offensive and
       defensive), and an Eddie Jackson replacement (same instincts but
       tougher and a better tackler) .
       Git er done, Poles!
       [/quote]
       You listed almost all critical positions of need except one -
       wide receiver.   Right now the Bears have Moore, Tyler Scott,
       and Equanimous St Brown as starters with Velus Jones as a
       backup.
       Almost all of these needs can also be addressed in free agency.
       (Also add depth at halfback and TE).
       #Post#: 487113--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
       By: davebear Date: February 12, 2024, 12:10 pm
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       They need to be careful with Eddie Jackson.
       Yes he’s injured a lot and not especially physical.
       But he’s the quarterback of the defense and the defense was
       markedly better when he played.
       I would consider discussing a pay cut with him but I’ve heard a
       couple of personnel guys say his leadership on the field is in
       demand by a number of teams so he’ll likely get offers.
       #Post#: 487114--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
       By: boogie Date: February 12, 2024, 1:23 pm
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       I was watching a video of all of Caleb Williams plays vs Notre
       Dame in 2022 and he was amazing, like Mahomes amazing.  I also
       watched the same kind of tape of him vs Notre Dame in 2023, and
       not so good.  Very tough decision to make, after watching what
       Mahomes can do yesterday.
       #Post#: 487118--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
       By: davebear Date: February 12, 2024, 1:38 pm
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       In 2022 he had better players surrounding him.
       This year opponents got pass rush with 3 linemen.  Opponents
       when they were good were getting touchdowns every possession.
       He started playing hero ball and took too many risks.
       He’s a tough evaluation to me
       #Post#: 487119--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
       By: dallasbear Date: February 12, 2024, 2:30 pm
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       Eddie Jackson negatives:  durability (12 games in 2022 and 12 in
       2023), touched the ball 5 times in '23 (1 pick 5 PDs), tackling
       numbers way down from '22 in same number of games, no TFL, no
       fumbles, no QB hits, approximately $18M to be paid for 2024
       It's hard for us to judge leadership and yes, Bears suffered
       with Elijah Hicks in the lineup, but Bears need to sign a FA AND
       draft another FS in rounds 3 or 4.  The pay and the production
       for Jackson are way out of whack.
       #Post#: 487251--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
       By: WshflThinking Date: February 15, 2024, 4:50 pm
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       [quote author=davebear link=topic=634.msg487118#msg487118
       date=1707766720]
       In 2022 he had better players surrounding him.
       This year opponents got pass rush with 3 linemen.  Opponents
       when they were good were getting touchdowns every possession.
       He started playing hero ball and took too many risks.
       He’s a tough evaluation to me
       [/quote]
       And the Bears have so much superior talent. Sure and the man in
       the moon eats green cheese. Its why the Bears are 7/10. Cale
       Williams isnt the missing link. If somebody thinks that they
       belong
       in the funny farm.
       #Post#: 487255--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
       By: dallasbear Date: February 15, 2024, 5:25 pm
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       [quote author=davebear link=topic=634.msg487118#msg487118
       date=1707766720]
       In 2022 he had better players surrounding him.
       This year opponents got pass rush with 3 linemen.  Opponents
       when they were good were getting touchdowns every possession.
       He started playing hero ball and took too many risks.
       He’s a tough evaluation to me
       [/quote]
       I agree that its a tough eval.   They said the same things about
       Favre and Mahomes about being risk takers too.
       #Post#: 487280--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
       By: WshflThinking Date: February 16, 2024, 2:55 am
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       So the Bears draft Caleb Williams #1 and trade Fields for poop
       and go 3/14 next year. Would that make all the fans happy? I
       sure dont think so.
       #Post#: 487281--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
       By: boogie Date: February 16, 2024, 6:56 am
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       It would make all of the fans of the draft happy.  ;)
       #Post#: 487304--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 NFL Draft
       By: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX Date: February 16, 2024, 4:30 pm
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