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       Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
       By: dallasbear Date: March 7, 2024, 4:28 pm
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       [quote author=WshflThinking link=topic=633.msg488389#msg488389
       date=1709849350]
       Certainly we need 2 starting guards and a starting center yet. I
       dont know if Carter is good enough to be 1st backup The clown
       from Tennessee should find a new home. He failed to impress me.
       And we dont have the right draft picks left to invest in OGs
       Lets see if Poles can pull a rabbit out of his hat in FA. He is
       supposed to be a Oline expert.
       [/quote]
       Davis did not have a good season, BUT a lot of that had to do
       with his personal issues.  He was a solid guard at Tennesse the
       years before.  Let's not go knee-jerk - he deserves a 2nd
       chance.  And anyways the Bears would get killed on the cap by
       releasing him in his 2nd year.
       Bears will either sign and/or draft another interior lineman to
       compete with Bates.   Carter and Kramer would have to radically
       improve to crack the starting line up or maybe even make the
       team.
       #Post#: 488399--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
       By: WshflThinking Date: March 7, 2024, 5:29 pm
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       [quote author=dallasbear link=topic=633.msg488394#msg488394
       date=1709850488]
       Davis did not have a good season, BUT a lot of that had to do
       with his personal issues.  He was a solid guard at Tennesse the
       years before.  Let's not go knee-jerk - he deserves a 2nd
       chance.  And anyways the Bears would get killed on the cap by
       releasing him in his 2nd year.
       Bears will either sign and/or draft another interior lineman to
       compete with Bates.   Carter and Kramer would have to radically
       improve to crack the starting line up or maybe even make the
       team.
       [/quote]
       Does that comment mean you are satisfied with his performance
       when he was healthy to warrant him another year to prove it or
       find another better starter? I would attempt to find a better
       replacement.
       #Post#: 488406--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
       By: davebear Date: March 7, 2024, 6:16 pm
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       I watched a few videos of coaches analyzing the OL
       Davis had some really good games and coordinated well with the
       RT.
       His early games especially were bad a a couple late ones.
       However he missed camp because of the death of an immediate
       family member so I’m sure football wasn’t his priority.  He
       should be able to be better this year.
       When Jenkins had a concussion later in the season he was
       replaced by Whitehair rather than J’Tyre Carter which doesn’t
       bode well for Carter.  If they have Bates at center they could
       use a backup guard.
       #Post#: 488444--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
       By: hibernationsuxs Date: March 8, 2024, 5:29 am
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       My guess on Bates trade is that the Bears know what/who they
       want with pick 1 & 9 and 75.  They probably realized they were
       not going to get Oline help until 5th round and felt better
       going with veteran who has less ceiling more floor.   May my
       guess is overly simplistic but I got believe that is why they
       traded for Bates.
       #Post#: 488445--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
       By: vj Date: March 8, 2024, 6:42 am
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       The Bears are fifth in <a
       href="
  HTML https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2024/">cap
       space</a> at
       $55,966,870 post J.J.
       Heh, even after the fire sale, the Bill are still 7 million
       under.
       #Post#: 488458--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
       By: dallasbear Date: March 8, 2024, 12:03 pm
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       Who have the Bears lost on the O-line?   Whitehair, Patrick and
       Feeney.   That's 3 guys on the 53 man roster and 2 of those
       started quite a few games in 2023.
       I'm not sure why anyone would question trading for an
       experienced lineman that can be trusted to play or possibly
       start any of the 3 interior line positions.   Bears are not
       going to draft a guard/center with their first pick and probably
       not their second first rounder unless they trade down.   Even if
       they snag a top center in the first few rounds they currently
       have no reliable depth.
       Wilkins seems to be a possible target only because the Bears
       have lost a starter on the d-line and again there isn't a DT
       worthy of pick 1 or 9.   Maybe with a trade down.  But there is
       more depth in the draft at DE with 9 or possibly later if they
       trade down.
       #Post#: 488462--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
       By: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX Date: March 8, 2024, 12:36 pm
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       I love Ryan Poles. He drives us all nuts with suspense.
       #Post#: 488475--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
       By: Sportster Date: March 8, 2024, 1:47 pm
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       As all of us know, the smart way to build a team is from the
       lines up. Start with the O and D lines. This team is not built
       that way, so they're constantly having to plug and unplug people
       to try to get the lines to gel and produce. This coming year
       will be no different as the focus is on the QB situation, as
       always it seems, and wideouts and impact players, but the team
       should have been build from the ground up instead of the top
       down, making our D porous and the QB running for his life....
       #Post#: 488478--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
       By: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX Date: March 8, 2024, 1:52 pm
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       [quote author=Sportster link=topic=633.msg488475#msg488475
       date=1709927241]
       As all of us know, the smart way to build a team is from the
       lines up. Start with the O and D lines. This team is not built
       that way, so they're constantly having to plug and unplug people
       to try to get the lines to gel and produce. This coming year
       will be no different as the focus is on the QB situation, as
       always it seems, and wideouts and impact players, but the team
       should have been build from the ground up instead of the top
       down, making our D porous and the QB running for his life....
       [/quote]
       Free agency and the draft is going to be a shiitstorm.
       #Post#: 488484--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2024 Chicago Bears
       By: dallasbear Date: March 8, 2024, 3:21 pm
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       [quote author=Sportster link=topic=633.msg488475#msg488475
       date=1709927241]
       As all of us know, the smart way to build a team is from the
       lines up. Start with the O and D lines. This team is not built
       that way, so they're constantly having to plug and unplug people
       to try to get the lines to gel and produce. This coming year
       will be no different as the focus is on the QB situation, as
       always it seems, and wideouts and impact players, but the team
       should have been build from the ground up instead of the top
       down, making our D porous and the QB running for his life....
       [/quote]
       It's all about the QB.
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