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       #Post#: 482992--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove
       By: Deeg Date: November 25, 2023, 9:55 pm
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       He's on an 11/$280 deal signed before last season, and will be
       31 through almost all of next season.
       Bogaerts does have some experience playing third, and he's still
       quite decent at SS.  I think it's pretty likely he'd be a solid
       or better defensive 3B for at least a few more years.  I
       probably wouldn't do it myself, but it is the sort of thing you
       could at least argue makes sense for both sides.
       #Post#: 482993--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove
       By: CurtOne Date: November 25, 2023, 10:03 pm
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       In 11 years at the current rate of inflation his 25M will be
       paid by three hot dog stands over 2 nights at Wrigley.
       #Post#: 482994--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove
       By: Deeg Date: November 25, 2023, 10:11 pm
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       [quote author=CurtOne link=topic=630.msg482993#msg482993
       date=1700971432]
       In 11 years at the current rate of inflation his 25M will be
       paid by three hot dog stands over 2 nights at Wrigley.
       [/quote]
       That's the reason you could argue the deal might make sense for
       the Cubs.
       #Post#: 482995--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove
       By: chgojhawk Date: November 26, 2023, 8:50 am
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       [quote author=Deeg link=topic=630.msg482994#msg482994
       date=1700971876]
       That's the reason you could argue the deal might make sense for
       the Cubs.
       [/quote]
       It's also the reason that Ohtani at almost any price makes
       sense.  The Cubs would likely make money from signing Ohtani.
       While I can't be certain, I think they would generate quite a
       bit in jersey sales, Marquee licensing to Japan and ticket sales
       among other financial opportunities.  The Hotel Zachary (which
       is owned by the Cubs) and the local businesses owned by the Cubs
       would have a lot of Japanese visitors generating income.
       Ohtanimania would likely cover the cost of Ohtani.
       #Post#: 482996--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove
       By: davep Date: November 26, 2023, 9:19 am
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       Is the Hotel owned by the Cubs.  It was my understanding that it
       was owned seperately by the Ricketts family.
       #Post#: 482998--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove
       By: chgojhawk Date: November 26, 2023, 10:22 am
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       [quote author=davep link=topic=630.msg482996#msg482996
       date=1701011947]
       Is the Hotel owned by the Cubs.  It was my understanding that it
       was owned seperately by the Ricketts family.
       [/quote]
       That is true.  Cubs owned by the Ricketts.  Ricketts (and
       investors) own the hotel and other stuff around the ballpark.
       If the Cubs, owned by the Ricketts family (and investors) are
       paying Ohtani it all somewhat washes out the same way.
       #Post#: 482999--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove
       By: Ron Date: November 26, 2023, 11:54 am
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       [quote author=chgojhawk link=topic=630.msg482998#msg482998
       date=1701015760]
       That is true.  Cubs owned by the Ricketts.  Ricketts (and
       investors) own the hotel and other stuff around the ballpark.
       If the Cubs, owned by the Ricketts family (and investors) are
       paying Ohtani it all somewhat washes out the same way.
       [/quote]
       Seriously?
       #Post#: 483003--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove
       By: Deeg Date: November 26, 2023, 3:46 pm
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       [quote author=chgojhawk link=topic=630.msg482995#msg482995
       date=1701010253]
       It's also the reason that Ohtani at almost any price makes
       sense.  The Cubs would likely make money from signing Ohtani.
       While I can't be certain, I think they would generate quite a
       bit in jersey sales, Marquee licensing to Japan and ticket sales
       among other financial opportunities.  The Hotel Zachary (which
       is owned by the Cubs) and the local businesses owned by the Cubs
       would have a lot of Japanese visitors generating income.
       Ohtanimania would likely cover the cost of Ohtani.
       [/quote]
       Levine said a source told him Ohtani was worth $100 million in
       annual revenue to his team.  That number sounds high to me but
       at the very least he's worth tens of millions a year.
       #Post#: 483004--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove
       By: Cletus Date: November 26, 2023, 3:47 pm
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       [quote author=davep link=topic=630.msg482996#msg482996
       date=1701011947]
       Is the Hotel owned by the Cubs.  It was my understanding that it
       was owned seperately by the Ricketts family.
       [/quote]
       What a rube.
       #Post#: 483005--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove
       By: davep Date: November 26, 2023, 5:23 pm
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       [quote author=chgojhawk link=topic=630.msg482998#msg482998
       date=1701015760]
       That is true.  Cubs owned by the Ricketts.  Ricketts (and
       investors) own the hotel and other stuff around the ballpark.
       If the Cubs, owned by the Ricketts family (and investors) are
       paying Ohtani it all somewhat washes out the same way.
       [/quote]
       How about the other businesses around the ball park.  Are they
       expected to contribute to the salary of the free agents?
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