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Re: Hot Stove
DIR By: CurtOne
Date: December 1, 2023, 12:28 pm
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Passan teaches kindergarten?
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Re: Hot Stove
DIR By: Dave23
Date: December 1, 2023, 12:44 pm
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Maybe we can offer PCA and Horton for Cease…that seems to be the
going rate for Sox pitchers when dealing with the Cubs…
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Re: Hot Stove
DIR By: craig
Date: December 1, 2023, 12:58 pm
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This is just optimistic me, but those Passan rumors certainly
don't suggest the Cubs are playing cheap and trying to fit under
the bottom lux line.
*Seems obvious they are looking for one significant pitcher.
Yamamoto, Glasnow, with Montgomery as the fallback "cheap"
option, that's going to be a big-ticket pitcher on the lux list.
*Ohtani or Bellinger, those would be big-ticket hitters.
Obviously for Ohtani to choose the Cubs still seems more fantasy
than realistic, and perhaps their budget planning goes totally
different *IF* he's actually interested.
But still, seems to me that if the disappointment outcome is to
"settle" for Bellinger, and Glasnow/Montgomery, adding both one
pitcher and one hitter big-ticket will shoots us to or over the
first lux line, right?
And obviously that wouldn't be all they'd do. Last year, Fulmer
and Boxberger alone were $4 and $2. I assume bullpen is going
to get a somewhat bigger allocation than that this year.
Also wouldn't surprise if they added some additional bat.
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Re: Hot Stove
DIR By: CurtOne
Date: December 1, 2023, 1:12 pm
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Trade for Clase, sign Chapman, Chapman, Bellinger, Yamamoto.
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Re: Hot Stove
DIR By: Ron
Date: December 1, 2023, 2:15 pm
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The Athletic has an interesting article on Ohtani's agent, Nez
Balelo.
HTML https://theathletic.com/5103732/2023/12/01/shohei-ohtani-nez-balelo-agent/
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Re: Hot Stove
DIR By: CUBluejays
Date: December 1, 2023, 2:43 pm
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--- Quote from: craig link ---
>
> This is just optimistic me, but those Passan rumors certainly
don't suggest the Cubs are playing cheap and trying to fit under
the bottom lux line.
> *Seems obvious they are looking for one significant pitcher.
Yamamoto, Glasnow, with Montgomery as the fallback "cheap"
option, that's going to be a big-ticket pitcher on the lux list.
> *Ohtani or Bellinger, those would be big-ticket hitters.
Obviously for Ohtani to choose the Cubs still seems more fantasy
than realistic, and perhaps their budget planning goes totally
different *IF* he's actually interested.
>
> But still, seems to me that if the disappointment outcome is
to "settle" for Bellinger, and Glasnow/Montgomery, adding both
one pitcher and one hitter big-ticket will shoots us to or over
the first lux line, right?
>
> And obviously that wouldn't be all they'd do. Last year,
Fulmer and Boxberger alone were $4 and $2. I assume bullpen is
going to get a somewhat bigger allocation than that this year.
>
> Also wouldn't surprise if they added some additional bat.
>
--- End Quote ---
Cubs are currently at $185 million. Add Glasnow would but them
about $27 million below the first line.
I wouldn't assume that Bellinger is the fallback option to
Ohtani. It sure sounds like the Cubs only are interested at
their price and not his price. If it was Montgomery/Bellinger +
bullpen is that really a more talented team than last year?
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Re: Hot Stove
DIR By: Reb
Date: December 1, 2023, 3:02 pm
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--- Quote from: CUBluejays link ---
>
> …..ll If it was Montgomery/Bellinger + bullpen is that really
a more talented team than last year?
>
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Cubs Pythag in 2023 was 90 wins.
Maybe 90 wins was the “talent” level and 83 wins was the
vagaries of playing the season with all the attendant
randomness, luck, and what have you of baseball.
Put another way, every season is different. Maybe Cubs are bunch
of wins over their Pythag in 2024.
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Re: Hot Stove
DIR By: Playtwo
Date: December 1, 2023, 3:14 pm
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Don't want to count on that though.
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Re: Hot Stove
DIR By: Reb
Date: December 1, 2023, 3:16 pm
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--- Quote from: Playtwo link ---
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> Don't want to count on that though.
>
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What can we count on in baseball?
Just make good decisions.
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Re: Hot Stove
DIR By: Playtwo
Date: December 1, 2023, 3:21 pm
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Don't expect a team with roughly the talent level of last year's
team to compete on the basis of last year's Pythagorean. Got to
improve the talent level with smart acquisitions/trades. I'm
optimistic that Hoyer will accomplish that.
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