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       #Post#: 483129--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove
       By: craig Date: November 28, 2023, 7:07 pm
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       Heh heh, the great Jim Bowden has a fun piece in which he
       assigns one FA to each team.
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       With Cubs losing out on Ohtani to Dodgers, Yamamoto Mets,
       Bellinger Yankees, Bowden matches the Cubs with Rhys Hoskins on
       a $12/1 deal.  The only team with a smaller ticket is the Royals
       with $8/1 on Hyun Jin Ryu.  :):).  Bowden is funny.
       #Post#: 483130--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove
       By: JeffH Date: November 28, 2023, 7:11 pm
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       Craig, Jim Bowden is a genius.  You must bow to him.  Your
       disrespect will not be tolerated.
       #Post#: 483133--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove
       By: Deeg Date: November 28, 2023, 7:46 pm
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       [quote author=CurtOne link=topic=630.msg483123#msg483123
       date=1701213412]
       I am amazed at the number of writers and "experts" are
       suggesting that the Cubs are the leading contenders for Ohtani.
       I'm a doubter, but where's the smoke...
       And let's not forget William's kindergarten teacher!
       [/quote]
       TBH I haven’t seen a single source indicate anybody other than
       the Dodgers is the leading contender.
       #Post#: 483137--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove
       By: Deeg Date: November 28, 2023, 9:09 pm
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       Multiple reports the Cubs are deeply involved in Glasnow talks
       (as you’d expect).  What would be an acceptable price? Ace
       stuff, horrible injury history, rental, not cheap ($25 million).
       You’d think the Rays would target guys who could help them next
       season, since they’re always in contention.  Assad or Weseski
       and a 10-20 system prospect?  I’m not giving up Morel or Wicks
       for a season of Glasnow (which is actually whatever portion of
       the season he’s actually able to pitch).
       #Post#: 483138--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove
       By: CurtOne Date: November 28, 2023, 9:14 pm
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       [quote author=Deeg link=topic=630.msg483133#msg483133
       date=1701222364]
       TBH I haven’t seen a single source indicate anybody other than
       the Dodgers is the leading contender.
       [/quote]That's odd since most of them cite you and some
       Washington DC kindergarten teacher as their sources.
       #Post#: 483139--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove
       By: CurtOne Date: November 28, 2023, 9:16 pm
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       We have to give Bellinger another mil for being Comeback Player
       of the Year, so I'm sure that puts us out of any FA hunt.
       #Post#: 483143--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove
       By: craig Date: November 28, 2023, 10:59 pm
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       [quote author=Deeg link=topic=630.msg483137#msg483137
       date=1701227358]
       Multiple reports the Cubs are deeply involved in Glasnow talks
       (as you’d expect).  What would be an acceptable price? Ace
       stuff, horrible injury history, rental, not cheap ($25 million).
       You’d think the Rays would target guys who could help them next
       season, since they’re always in contention.  Assad or Weseski
       and a 10-20 system prospect?  I’m not giving up Morel or Wicks
       for a season of Glasnow (which is actually whatever portion of
       the season he’s actually able to pitch)?
       [/quote]
       See how close Wesneski gets you and consider from there.
       #Post#: 483152--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove
       By: craig Date: November 29, 2023, 8:01 am
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       Trades have limitless tinkerability, unlike FA.  I could imagine
       scenario where a team trading with the cubs wants a Cubs
       prospect, but we think that's too rich and makes the deal
       imbalanced.  Easy ways to move towards balance.
       Suppose hypothetically Hoyer wants Glasnow, and Tampa likes
       Wesneski and Triantos in return, but Hoyer thinks that's too
       much value.
       Bote's $5.5 contract would be an easy "tinker" toy to reduce the
       value of Cubs deal and perhaps level the values.
       Smyly might have similar "tinker" utility?
       Obviously Tampa could some other prospect of variable value back
       to level the imbalance?
       Or Tampa could simply eat some of Glasnow's salary to improve
       the value.
       Not saying those are appropriate values or whatever; just the
       obvious observation that you can tinker with trades, in ways
       that can't be done with FA signings.
       #Post#: 483171--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove
       By: CUBluejays Date: November 29, 2023, 12:13 pm
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       Soto to the Yankees is heating up and teams are dropping out of
       Ohtani sweepstakes.
       #Post#: 483178--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hot Stove
       By: CurtOne Date: November 29, 2023, 2:08 pm
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       [quote author=CUBluejays link=topic=630.msg483171#msg483171
       date=1701281620]
       Soto to the Yankees is heating up and teams are dropping out of
       Ohtani sweepstakes.
       [/quote]Word is that if Yankees get Soto, they won't pursue
       Bellinger any longer either.
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