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       #Post#: 482085--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in ‘24
   DIR By: Reb
       Date: November 6, 2023, 2:25 pm
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       Hoyer remarks on Ross made in March 2022 in connection with
       Ross’ contract extension:
       "David has done a fantastic job as a manager," Hoyer told
       reporters. "He's learned a ton on the job. Even while learning I
       think he's excelled. He's kept morale good. He's run the staff
       very well. I love having him as a partner. Our hope certainly is
       that David's here for a long time."
       #Post#: 482087--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in ‘24
   DIR By: Dave23
       Date: November 6, 2023, 2:33 pm
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       When Breslow was first hired, wasn’t it as “Special Assistant”
       to the GM, or something along those lines? Kinda like Dwight
       Schrute being “Assistant to the Regional Manager” rather than
       “Assistant Regional Manager”?
       I wonder if Rossy will be offered a similar position? Something
       equivalent, minus the “Director of Pitching” title that Breslow
       also had…
       #Post#: 482089--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in ‘24
   DIR By: Reb
       Date: November 6, 2023, 2:36 pm
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       Not sure why Ross would take a lesser job in the organization
       when he’s being paid for 2024 in any case.
       More likely that he wants to stay in managing and will seek
       another managerial job.
       #Post#: 482090--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in ‘24
   DIR By: Playtwo
       Date: November 6, 2023, 2:39 pm
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       The Brewers have an opening.
       #Post#: 482093--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in ‘24
   DIR By: ben
       Date: November 6, 2023, 2:55 pm
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       Seemingly a great move to hire Craig Counsell.  His results for
       MIlwaukee have been amazing!
       Best guess is that Cub players will respond very well to him,
       too.
       #Post#: 482095--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in ‘24
   DIR By: davep
       Date: November 6, 2023, 3:04 pm
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       --- Quote from: Playtwo link ---
       >
       > Is it possible that Hoyer is underappreciated?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Not by me.  I think he is doing the job the way Epstein should
       have done it, as far as the long term is concerned.
       #Post#: 482097--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in ‘24
   DIR By: Dave23
       Date: November 6, 2023, 3:18 pm
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       I guess I was unaware that a high profile front office position
       was a lesser position than on-field manager…
       #Post#: 482098--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in ‘24
   DIR By: CUBluejays
       Date: November 6, 2023, 3:19 pm
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       --- Quote from: davep link ---
       >
       > You may be right.  But this move, although unexpected, is not
       a repudiation of their policies up til now.  Although the salary
       is amazingly high for a manager, it is quite low compared to the
       cost of free agent players.  What kind of pitcher can they get
       for 10 million per year?  Another Smiley?  Another Miley?  And
       the contract is only 4 years in length, in keeping with their
       avoidance of long term contracts.
       >
       > Previous to this deal, I expected the Cubs to make an attempt
       to sign or trade for a top pitcher, perhaps a mid level pitcher
       to replace Stroman, and a mid level position player.  I don't
       think this changes that outlook, since the luxury tax and roster
       needs are unchanged.  I will be extremely surprised if the Cubs
       go over the luxury tax this year, especially for the acquisition
       of a long term monster contract.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       So you think the Cubs are bringing in Counsell to manage a team
       that is going to replace Stroman and Bellinger with lesser
       players?  That would be disappointing and would free up another
       summer for me.
       #Post#: 482102--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in ‘24
   DIR By: davep
       Date: November 6, 2023, 3:41 pm
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       It is always nice to have a free summer.
       I have already said that I expect them to sign another mid-level
       pitcher to replace Stroman, who was in my opinion, but not a top
       tier starter.
       I hope they manage to get Yamamoto as their top tier pitcher,
       and if they do so, I do not expect them to also add a
       Bellinger-level replacement, at least not if a mega-year
       contract is required.  In my opinion, they believe there is a
       reasonable expectation that production from PCA, Canario,
       perhaps even Mervis, and a properly used Morel will add
       sufficient offense to replace Bellinger.
       And I believe that if they can do no more without exceeding the
       luxury tax this season, they will not exceed the luxury tax this
       season.
       #Post#: 482104--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in ‘24
   DIR By: Ron
       Date: November 6, 2023, 3:45 pm
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       --- Quote from: davep link ---
       >
       >
       > In my opinion, they believe there is a reasonable expectation
       that production from PCA, Canario, perhaps even Mervis, and a
       properly used Morel will add sufficient offense to replace
       Bellinger.
       >
       > And I believe that if they can do no more without exceeding
       the luxury tax this season, they will not exceed the luxury tax
       this season.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I sure hope they don't believe that. I would be shocked if they
       do.
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