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Cubs in ‘24
By: Dave23 Date: October 3, 2023, 7:54 am
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Discuss what lies ahead…
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Re: Cubs in ‘24
By: Dave23 Date: October 3, 2023, 7:55 am
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And yeah…let’s start with this…
HTML https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/2023/10/02/pete-alonso-interest-cubs-1/
What’s your best offer for 1 year (and potentially more) of Pete
Alonso?
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Re: Cubs in ‘24
By: Deeg Date: October 3, 2023, 8:20 am
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My great fear is that Hoyer is going to pillage the farm system
it took so much tanking to build in order to try and remain
borderline competitive without having to ask PTR to go into the
tax. Not at all interested in Alonso as a rental - he'll cost
more than he's worth.
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Re: Cubs in ‘24
By: Dave23 Date: October 3, 2023, 11:12 am
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What if he comes with a new deal? What kind of deal would you
offer him?
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Re: Cubs in ‘24
By: CUBluejays Date: October 3, 2023, 2:54 pm
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Goldschmidt got traded to the Cardinals for Carson Kelly, Luke
Weaver, Andrew Young and a comp B pick. He then signed an
extension for 5 years, $130 million before becoming a free
agent.
Goldschmidt is better than Alonso.
So Amaya, Assad and Jared Young and 5 years, $100 million.
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Re: Cubs in ‘24
By: Dave23 Date: October 3, 2023, 3:04 pm
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BN now reporting that the interest is mutual…Alonso wants to be
a Cub…
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Re: Cubs in ‘24
By: CUBluejays Date: October 3, 2023, 3:09 pm
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Then let him force his way onto the Cubs for peanuts. BN was
quoting Jessie Rogers.
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Re: Cubs in ‘24
By: Deeg Date: October 3, 2023, 4:24 pm
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[quote author=Dave23 link=topic=628.msg480787#msg480787
date=1696349534]
What if he comes with a new deal? What kind of deal would you
offer him?
[/quote]
Mervis and Smyly. As for a contract, no more than 5 years at
around $20-22M. Neither of which would be enough, so fine.
Alonso does one thing very well, hit HRs. A very valuable skill
no doubt, and he's elite at it. Pretty much average or worse at
every other facet of the game and unlikely to age well.
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Re: Cubs in ‘24
By: craig Date: October 3, 2023, 6:50 pm
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[quote author=Playtwo link=topic=616.msg480741#msg480741
date=1696288760]
Hendricks is a lock to be in the rotation. Probably with Steele,
Stroman, Wicks, and Taillon to start the season if all are
healthy.
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I posted this idea a couple weeks ago. And Curt won't like it!
But I'd like to see the Cubs intentionally schedule in rest
windows for their old veterans. Hendricks, Taillon, Stroman. I
think these older guys in their 30's with 900-1500 innings, I
think they just get tired. Big strong Jon Lester would run into
dead-arm periods every summer, I think that just tends to happen
for finesse guys after a thousand innings. If you're going to
ride 32-34-year-old guys finesse guys, protect them, keep them
fresh, and give them opportunity to be at their best.
Likewise for Wicks and Assad, Horton and Brown, guys who have
been protected and used cautiously in the minors.
Could allow you to keep the vets you've already committed to,
but still try to upgrade? Both keep Hendricks at $12.5 in what
seems like a fair-value deal. But still add one upside FA,
whether one of the Japanese guys or somebody else with ceiling?
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Re: Cubs in ‘24
By: craig Date: October 3, 2023, 7:01 pm
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Curt has mentioned concern with short-stat starters, and then
look-for-today's-loser use of one-inning relievers.
I think strengthening the bullpen is crucial. A lot looks
different if the bullpen is good and deep and trustworthy.
Wesneski, Cuas, Little, Palencia, those are all
limited-experience guys who can look good on occasion, but are
all wild and wildly inconsistent. I could imagine hoping
"infrastructure" can improve them all, and if so all of a sudden
you've got a deep staff. Or maybe wild is wild, and nothing
changes.
Will be curious to see what Hoyer does.
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