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#Post#: 46038--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hot Stove 2011
DIR By: StrikeZone
Date: December 7, 2011, 10:47 pm
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--- Quote from: Dihard link ---
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> If we're all pretty convinced we're gonna suck for at least
the next 2 years, why would we want to sign a big free agent
now? Especially Pujols doesn't make sense to me. His best two
years are likely to be 2 we aren't contenders anyway, so why pay
all that money for someone who will be declining by the time
we're relevant.
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> I know we have a hole at first, so it makes Fielder and Pujols
appealing, but I'd rather get some lesser pieces in place, and
save the big signings for next winter or the one after.
(Admittedly, I haven't looked at who projects to become
available then.)
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I'm not convinced that the Cubs will suck in 2012.
Passing on free agents at a position of need because someone
might become available down the road isn't a solid strategy,
especially if "down the road" is two years away.
Said player might re-sign with his current team, get traded to
another team before he becomes a free agent and the re-sign with
them or get injured and never recover before getting to free
agency.
Right now, there are two impact players at first base, where the
Cubs have a black hole with no one on the horizon in the minors.
Those players are/were key pieces on two of the Cubs division
rivals.
Piecemeal, patchwork, band-aid, whatever you want to call it, is
mid-1990s Andy MacPhail era Cubs management and it's no way to
run a major market baseball team.
The Cubs need to win ten more games to become a .500 club next
year. They have money coming off the books now and again after
next year. They should make moves now in order to be in a
better position next offseason.
Punting the next two years is lunacy, especially considering
that they would be wasting two more cheap years of Starlin
Castro and other key young players.
#Post#: 46039--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hot Stove 2011
DIR By: Ron
Date: December 7, 2011, 10:47 pm
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There were rumors that the Cubs were offering Pujols fewer years
but close to equal money to one or more of the 10 year offers.
I have wondered if they were contemplating a shorter term
version of DaveP's suggestion - either to Pujols or Fielder.
If you offer a 6 year deal at $35 million that equals $210
million, and if Pujols/Fielder is still a strong player they can
add to the total after those six years with a new contract.
That's the sort of approach to one of those guys that would make
sense. I think it's highly possible that Pujols will have at
least four more terrific years, and it's not inconceivable that
he would have 5 or 6. With Fielder (who is, in spite of his
name, a weaker defensive player), it's even more likely that
he'll have that many really good years, offensively at least.
I admit that I have found myself secretly hoping that something
like that would happen. But I don't expect that it will.
#Post#: 46042--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hot Stove 2011
DIR By: Jes Beard
Date: December 7, 2011, 10:54 pm
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Even a 6 year deal at $35 a year for Pujols would have a team
regretting that deal for the last two years of the contract, and
since the Cubs are not going anywhere for what would be the
first two years of the contract, that essentially would have the
Cubs paying $210M for two years of Pujols when his performance
would have some chance of really helping.
That is WAY overpaying.
Other than staying in the game to run up the cost for the Cards,
the Cubs need to let him go.
#Post#: 46043--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hot Stove 2011
DIR By: davep
Date: December 7, 2011, 10:55 pm
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I don't think they should sign Pujols unless he promises to wear
a Cubs hat when he is put into the Hall of Fame.
#Post#: 46053--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hot Stove 2011
DIR By: brjones
Date: December 8, 2011, 7:12 am
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Yu Darvish will be posted today.
#Post#: 46054--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hot Stove 2011
DIR By: Dave23
Date: December 8, 2011, 7:44 am
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Rangers refusing to give up Feldman in a Garza deal?
Really?!
#Post#: 46088--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hot Stove 2011
DIR By: Pistol
Date: December 8, 2011, 11:05 am
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Soriano?
Orioles Expected To Announce Trade Today By Tim Dierkes
[December 8, 2011 at 5:00am CST] The Orioles are "real close" to
a trade that is expected to be announced today, tweets Roch
Kubatko of MASNSports.com. Originally published on December 8th
at 9:44am
#Post#: 46274--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hot Stove 2011
DIR By: Cactus
Date: December 9, 2011, 7:56 am
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> If the Twins can't re-sign Cuddyer, they're interested in the
Chicago Cubs' fourth outfielder, free agent Reed Johnson, a
right-handed hitter who batted .309 with five homers and 28 runs
batted in in 111 games last season. Johnson, who turned 35 on
Thursday, is a nine-year major league veteran.
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Re: Hot Stove 2011
DIR By: Ron
Date: December 9, 2011, 8:21 am
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I'll be disappointed if the Cubs don't bring Reed Johnson back.
#Post#: 46296--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hot Stove 2011
DIR By: Dave23
Date: December 9, 2011, 9:41 am
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me too...
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