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Re: Hot Stove 2011
DIR By: JeffH
Date: December 7, 2011, 7:42 pm
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I want a dominant veteran hitter in the lineup so we can bring
up kids without expecting them to hit a ton from the moment they
come up.
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Re: Hot Stove 2011
DIR By: Deeg
Date: December 7, 2011, 7:58 pm
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Fielder is 27 and could be in his prime for all of a 6-year
deal. You're going to need a 1B and lefty power at some point
if you hope to be a contender, so I'd sure as hell at least kick
the tires. Pujols, I wouldn't touch.
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Re: Hot Stove 2011
DIR By: Playtwo
Date: December 7, 2011, 8:00 pm
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I have a feeling that the Cubs will end up with Fielder. For
better or worse.
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Re: Hot Stove 2011
DIR By: davep
Date: December 7, 2011, 8:03 pm
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I would love to see them get Fielder for a 5 or 6 year contract.
But I doubt that they will.
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Re: Hot Stove 2011
DIR By: brjones
Date: December 7, 2011, 8:16 pm
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Olney on Twitter:
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> MILW playing it right in the way they're negotiating with
Fielder, but Cubs could grab this thing by the throat with Ryan
Howard-type offer.
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Is he talking a Howard-type deal in years and value? Because if
he is, sign me up...5/$125 for Fielder would be a steal.
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Re: Hot Stove 2011
DIR By: Jes Beard
Date: December 7, 2011, 8:27 pm
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--- Quote from: Dihard link ---
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> If we're all pretty convinced we're gonna suck for at least
the next 2 years, why would we want to sign a big free agent
now? Especially Pujols doesn't make sense to me. His best two
years are likely to be 2 we aren't contenders anyway, so why pay
all that money for someone who will be declining by the time
we're relevant.
>
--- End Quote ---
I am one of those who believes it will take two years before the
team has a chance of being restructured to such a degree that it
is likely to be strongly contending on a regular basis and agree
entirely with you about signing Pujols.
Others here seemingly believe that the Cubs can seriously
contend in 2012 and should try to do so, AND that they can do
that without in any way compromising the future. They are the
ones wanting the Cubs to go deep in the FA market and trade for
current impact players (not sure what could be traded of them,
but that is a different issue). I don't happen to agree with
that belief.
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Re: Hot Stove 2011
DIR By: CurtOne
Date: December 7, 2011, 8:36 pm
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--- Quote from: Dihard link ---
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> If we're all pretty convinced we're gonna suck for at least
the next 2 years, why would we want to sign a big free agent
now? Especially Pujols doesn't make sense to me. His best two
years are likely to be 2 we aren't contenders anyway, so why pay
all that money for someone who will be declining by the time
we're relevant.
>
> I know we have a hole at first, so it makes Fielder and Pujols
appealing, but I'd rather get some lesser pieces in place, and
save the big signings for next winter or the one after.
(Admittedly, I haven't looked at who projects to become
available then.)
>
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Di, because you need players two years from now to stop sucking
and all of them won't come from your system. One or two good
players this year, another one or two next, start mixing in the
kids and a couple of nice trades and you're competitive. I also
get the feeling that they wouldn't be opposed to fielding a team
that could challenge already next year as long as it didn't
damage their long term goal of building the farm.
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Re: Hot Stove 2011
DIR By: Cactus
Date: December 7, 2011, 8:42 pm
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--- Quote from: Dave Van Dyck ---
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> At least two other teams have come close to the St. Louis bid,
believed to be 10 years and at least $200 million, according to
multiple sources at baseball's winter meetings. The other two
teams have not been identified, although the Cubs always seem to
wind up in the speculation, whether it is warranted or not.
>
--- End Quote ---
The Yankees are laying in the weeds waiting to find out what it
is going to cost them.
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Re: Hot Stove 2011
DIR By: Deeg
Date: December 7, 2011, 8:51 pm
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--- Quote from: Cactus link ---
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> The Yankees are laying in the weeds waiting to find out what
it is going to cost them.
>
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No.
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Re: Hot Stove 2011
DIR By: davep
Date: December 7, 2011, 8:59 pm
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I have no problem with 10 year/200 million.
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