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       Hot Stove 2011
       By: Dave23 Date: November 1, 2011, 11:38 am
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       Hope springs eternal...
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       Re: Hot Stove 2011
       By: Cactus Date: November 1, 2011, 11:38 am
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       Trade Jes to NSBB.
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       Re: Hot Stove 2011
       By: JR Date: November 1, 2011, 11:40 am
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       Koyie Hill for Matt Kemp
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       Re: Hot Stove 2011
       By: Deeg Date: November 1, 2011, 11:59 am
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       [quote author=Cactus link=topic=62.msg40906#msg40906
       date=1320165527]
       Trade Jes to NSBB.
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       You'd have to eat the entire contract and throw in a couple of A
       prospects.
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       Re: Hot Stove 2011
       By: Cactus Date: November 1, 2011, 1:04 pm
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       Re: Hot Stove 2011
       By: Ron Date: November 1, 2011, 1:49 pm
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       Pessimist.
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       Re: Hot Stove 2011
       By: davep Date: November 1, 2011, 1:52 pm
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       [quote author=JR link=topic=62.msg40907#msg40907
       date=1320165657]
       Koyie Hill for Matt Kemp
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       That would be foolish.  LA is merely selling high.
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       Re: Hot Stove 2011
       By: wmljohn Date: November 1, 2011, 2:16 pm
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       I didn't bother much at all last season...
       Should I start now?
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       Re: Hot Stove 2011
       By: davep Date: November 1, 2011, 2:52 pm
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       No.
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       Re: Hot Stove 2011
       By: brjones Date: November 1, 2011, 4:26 pm
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       Ok, first crazy trade proposal…I think it makes sense on
       paper, but would have about a one in a million chance of
       happening in real life because it includes too many moving parts
       (3 teams and 4 bad contracts).  But it’s pre-hot stove
       season, so speculation is fun…
       To Cubs: Alex Rios
       To Mariners: Adam Dunn + a lot of money
       To White Sox: Alfonso Soriano & Chone Figgins
       I think all teams could benefit from the switching out of
       players:
       Cubs: Rios hasn’t been as good a hitter as Soriano, but
       has similar tools at the plate.  More importantly, he’s
       more athletic on defense and the bases, so a rebound anywhere
       close to his career stats would give him real value in the NL.
       Mariners: They dump a player who they badly want gone.  If Dunn
       can rebound partially back to his pre-2011 form (something like
       .325 OBP, 20-25 HR), he really helps the Mariners with their
       lack of power.
       White Sox: Soriano was clearly the best hitter of these four in
       2011—it wasn’t even close.  So they get the best
       hitter, and can hide his defense as a DH.  Figgins is just a
       thrown-in to even out the deal, but maybe he still has something
       left as a supersub in a more hitter-friendly ballpark.
       The biggest problem is the money.  The Cubs save $6 million each
       year 2012-2014.  The White Sox come out roughly even in the
       first two years, but save $9 million the third year.  But the
       Mariners would owe $6 million more in each of the first two
       years, and $15 million more in the third year.  To make this
       work, the Cubs and White Sox would probably have to send most
       (if not all) of their savings to the Mariners (meaning the
       Mariners would essentially get Dunn for free in 2014).  I doubt
       the teams would be willing to do that, even though a change of
       scenery could benefit all players & teams.
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