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       #Post#: 469717--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Today’s Game 2023
       By: Reb Date: March 17, 2023, 9:45 pm
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       K rates tend to stabilize at just over 100 PAs in a season. But,
       that’s regular season baseball. Spring training Ks at a FULL
       spring is about 50 PAs and generally against different sorts of
       pitching than regular season pitching. So, have to be VERY
       careful in inferring much.
       I would call spring training Ks as more of “something to be
       aware of”——if something out of ordinary or continues/contradicts
       a trend from the previous season, especially late the previous
       season.
       For example, last spring Bellinger had 17 Ks in his first 27
       spring ABs. This year he has 5 Ks. Interesting. But, even in
       regular season have to careful about any 27 PA increment. Willie
       Mays famously started his career going 1-26 and did okay
       thereafter.
       #Post#: 469718--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Today’s Game 2023
       By: Deeg Date: March 17, 2023, 10:05 pm
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       I'll never forget Garciaparra having an unbelievable spring the
       first full season with the Cubs.  Looked like his 25 year-old
       MVP self.  Season started, and he was basically washed.
       Spring training stats for established hitters are meaningless.
       Unless you're looking for bogus reasons to pimp a tired
       argument.
       #Post#: 469720--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Today’s Game 2023
       By: CUBluejays Date: March 17, 2023, 10:14 pm
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       Stanalizes just means less likely to be due to chance.  A guy
       that has his K% drop is something to take notice of.  It doesn’t
       mean that it is going to hold up for a whole year.
       Swanson’s K% of 32% is a big nothing burger.  It is well within
       the error bars of his 26% last year.  I’d be more interested in
       Swanson doing damage on non-fastballs than anything else he does
       this spring.  Bellinger dropping his K% is encouraging and
       something to keep an eye on.  It doesn’t mean it is going to
       hold up over a whole year.
       See Reb read something, it was a good discussion.
       #Post#: 469744--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Today’s Game 2023
       By: guest405 Date: March 18, 2023, 4:22 pm
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       Nick Madrigal has answered all questions about if he could play
       3rd this Spring.
       Im sure someone here will come up with some bullshit about his
       footwork or something though.
       #Post#: 469761--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Today’s Game 2023
       By: Deeg Date: March 18, 2023, 11:35 pm
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       Cubs are 28th of 30 teams in Spring Training OPS.
       #Post#: 469762--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Today’s Game 2023
       By: Reb Date: March 18, 2023, 11:43 pm
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       Madrigal has played—what?—8 or 9 partial games at 3B with maybe
       15 fielding chances?
       Takes WAY more than that to answer whether he’ll be credible at
       3B.
       So far, so good, but it’s tiny amount that “proves” nothing.
       Good enough to go forward, but that’s it.
       #Post#: 469763--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Today’s Game 2023
       By: Deeg Date: March 18, 2023, 11:48 pm
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       Madrigal does look fine at 3B FWIW, but his OPS is way under
       .600.  If he doesn't hit .300 minimum his offensive value is so
       negligible you wouldn't want him occupying any position anyway.
       #Post#: 469768--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Today’s Game 2023
       By: Reb Date: March 19, 2023, 1:53 am
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       Look, Madrigal is getting a shot at 3B in part because Cubs
       alternatives at 3B are putrid.
       Wisdom is a .210 hitter with a 35% K rate and coming off a
       season with bad 3B defense.
       Morel is a 34% K guy with poor 3B defense and who obviously
       needs at least 300-400 PAs at AAA.
       Rios has a .892 career fielding % in minors as a 3B and is
       basically a DH.
       McKinstry hit under the Mendoza line last season and is highly
       questionable whether makes the club in ANY role.
       That leaves Madrigal. The alternatives are so unattractive that
       playing a dozen partial games at 3B in spring training has some
       folks convinced he’s answered successfully that he can play a
       position he’s never before played in his life.
       Maybe he can. This is Baseball, so stuff happens. But, still a
       major question mark on defense accompanied by a second major
       question mark as to whether he can hit enough singles to make up
       for his almost total lack of power.
       That is our 3B position. This is not the days of Kris Bryant or
       Aramis Ramirez or Ron Santo or Stan Hack.
       Maybe Vance Law (if we get lucky).
       #Post#: 469779--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Today’s Game 2023
       By: CurtOne Date: March 19, 2023, 1:28 pm
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       You forgot Ron Cey and Bill Madlock.
       #Post#: 469781--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Today’s Game 2023
       By: davep Date: March 19, 2023, 3:09 pm
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       And Kevin Orie
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