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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: JeffH
Date: November 16, 2022, 10:29 am
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--- Quote from: CUBluejays link ---
> Would anybody do Happ for Kelenic
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No way. Madrigal for Kelenic, with balancing parts.
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: CUBluejays
Date: November 16, 2022, 3:29 pm
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They don't need Madrigal.
Kelentic would be getting more control and hoping that his
contact is more like his AAA numbers going forward.
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: JeffH
Date: November 16, 2022, 3:33 pm
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--- Quote from: CUBluejays link ---
> They don't need Madrigal.
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This is a contending team that got 602 PA of .612 OPS from Adam
Frazier. They need something.
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: Deeg
Date: November 16, 2022, 3:41 pm
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Nobody needs Madrigal, to be fair.
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: davep
Date: November 16, 2022, 9:06 pm
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That will depend upon his health.
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: CUBluejays
Date: November 16, 2022, 9:19 pm
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--- Quote from: JeffH link ---
>
> This is a contending team that got 602 PA of .612 OPS from
Adam Frazier. They need something.
>
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Moore is likely the guy.
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: Deeg
Date: November 16, 2022, 10:11 pm
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--- Quote from: JeffH link ---
>
> No way. Madrigal for Kelenic, with balancing parts.
>
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Presumably the balancing parts would be players they actually
want.
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: Reb
Date: November 16, 2022, 10:40 pm
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Mariners likely will get their 2023 2B by a trade.
Adam Frazier is a FA, Toro was terrible, M’s like moving Dylan
Moore all over the field, and they don’t really have a MIF
prospect ready to play in majors. Possible M’s could sign one of
the big FA SSs and move Crawford to 2B, but they recently gave
Crawford a sizable extension to play SS.
So, Madrigal to Seattle is an interesting idea. Of course, who
knows if they like him at all, but guessing that M’s brain trust
will not be influenced much by Madrigal’s failure to make the
Deeg Fave Club.
M’s were, I believe, 28th in majors in batting average, so if
they think Madrigal can get into .300 BA form, maybe they’d be
interested. Have no idea.
As to Kelenic, Theo was on Buster’s podcast today and said he
thought some lefty hitters are going to see their BA go up some
because of the anti-shift rule going into effect in 2023. If
that happens, sure seems like a guy like Kelenic might
benefit—who doesn’t hit much oppo field and hits a lot to pull
side and especially up the middle. Maybe he’d be less
homer-oriented too if he can hit a bunch of singles that were
outs previously. Rule might really help him, so I’d be
interested there.
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: Reb
Date: November 16, 2022, 10:49 pm
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One more thing on Kelenic.
His career BABIP is an almost unbelievable .201. And, that’s for
a guy who can run a bit. I’m sure this is partly because of lack
of hitting ball hard too often but, still, .201 is off the
charts and putting fielders in more traditional spots figures to
help him.
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: CUBluejays
Date: November 17, 2022, 7:27 am
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Kelenic has 47th percentile sprint speed.
94th percentile exit velocity.
28-33% K% in the majors, 15-20% in AAA, if you improve on that
and his BABPIP he can be a really interesting offensive player.
If the Mariners upgrade LF where is his playing time going to
come from. They have an everyday 3B, SS, CF. Tesocar and Moore
are similar players, so a platoon doesn’t make sense there. 2B
would make the most sense.
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