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#Post#: 463448--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: JeffH
Date: November 15, 2022, 5:03 pm
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Alcantara, Brown, Davis, and Jensen rostered.
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: CurtOne
Date: November 15, 2022, 5:17 pm
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That product tion will almost replace the Tank
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: craig
Date: November 15, 2022, 5:34 pm
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Jensen, interesting that they still protected him.
I can imagine he might have been a guy some teams might have
been interested. Throws hard; 1st round pick; has already spent
a year in AA so he's not far distant. Cubs have only used him
in rotation, so I'd guess other teams might think that switching
him to relief might help him click. And I assume teams with
confidence in their development might figure they might untap
some potential that the Cubs were never able to or were kinda
slow to make click.
Will be interesting to see if and who we lose.
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: craig
Date: November 15, 2022, 9:38 pm
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HTML https://theathletic.com/3901738/2022/11/15/cubs-willson-contreras-prospects/
Contreras declines. A few comments about the four prospects.
Not sure if they are new, fresh comments, or ones that Mooney
and Sharma pulled out of file from weeks ago.
Jensen is kind of a puzzle for me. Pre-2020, they were talking
about changing many of his pitches, that was pre-Covid. Fall
camp in 2020, and spring camp 2021, they had opportunity to
revise and lock in those revisions. They had 2021 to further
work on things, and make tweaks. They had 21-22 off-season to
further review his problems and how to remediate them. If his
arm-stroke was problematic, I wonder why did it take them from
2019 to June 2022 to notice? Just seems weird to me. And now
again, they're again in invent-new-pitches-for-Jensen mode? I
admit it kinda gives me some Maples vibes: always revising,
never settling; and a wild fastball that doesn't tweak/revise
into control.
Hopefully it all clicks, and he emerges as a value guy after
all.
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: Reb
Date: November 15, 2022, 11:07 pm
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Before the Cubs added the four prospects to the 40-man, Cubs
official twitter release said:
“Chicago Cubs
@Cubs
Official
The #Cubs today acquired INF/OF Miles Mastrobuoni from the Tampa
Bay Rays for minor league RHP Alfredo Zárraga.
The 40-man roster stands at 34 players.”
All the Cubs beat writers—consistent with the above—now say
roster is at 38.
But, if you count up the roster on Cubs.com, it adds up to 39,
not 38. So, AZ Phil has roster at 39.
Guessing this has something to do with Vizcaino. He’s still
listed on Cubs.com 40-man and only transaction listed as to
Vizcaino is that he was activated in October.
Other than that, beats me why Cubs are saying 38 and the math
adds up to 39.
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: JeffH
Date: November 16, 2022, 7:35 am
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Remaining players eligible for arbitration:
Happ
Heuer
Hoerner
Madrigal
Ortega
Wick
Any non-tenders in the bunch?
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: davep
Date: November 16, 2022, 9:00 am
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--- Quote from: Reb link ---
>
> Before the Cubs added the four prospects to the 40-man, Cubs
official twitter release said:
>
> “Chicago Cubs
>
> @Cubs
>
> Official
> The #Cubs today acquired INF/OF Miles Mastrobuoni from the
Tampa Bay Rays for minor league RHP Alfredo Zárraga.
>
> The 40-man roster stands at 34 players.”
>
> All the Cubs beat writers—consistent with the above—now say
roster is at 38.
>
> But, if you count up the roster on Cubs.com, it adds up to 39,
not 38. So, AZ Phil has roster at 39.
>
> Guessing this has something to do with Vizcaino. He’s still
listed on Cubs.com 40-man and only transaction listed as to
Vizcaino is that he was activated in October.
>
> Other than that, beats me why Cubs are saying 38 and the math
adds up to 39.
>
--- End Quote ---
Come on. You can not hold reporters to the same math standard
as you would a college professor.
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: davep
Date: November 16, 2022, 9:06 am
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--- Quote from: JeffH link ---
>
> Remaining players eligible for arbitration:
>
> Happ
> Heuer
> Hoerner
> Madrigal
> Ortega
> Wick
>
> Any non-tenders in the bunch?
>
--- End Quote ---
I doubt that it will happen, but I would non-tender both Ortega
and Wick. For the money, we could do better on the open market,
and neither have high ceilings.
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: CUBluejays
Date: November 16, 2022, 10:20 am
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Mariners traded for Teoscar Hernandez. So they have Julio in
CF, Teoscar in RF and are looking to updrade LF. Would anybody
do Happ for Kelenic
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: JR
Date: November 16, 2022, 10:24 am
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--- Quote from: CUBluejays link ---
>
> Would anybody do Happ for Kelenic?
--- End Quote ---
If it happened, I'd support it, but I wouldn't hold out any
great hopes for Kelenic turning into more than a bit piece on
TNGCT. He may be young, but he has a lot of awful to overcome.
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