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#Post#: 463173--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: guest405
Date: November 11, 2022, 1:15 pm
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I normally have no issue with Japanese position players other
than the fact that their power doesnt live up to the hype.
My issue is with the pitchers who come over here after they've
been rode like a rented mule.
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: Dave23
Date: November 11, 2022, 3:08 pm
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Esteban Quiroz and Jared Young were outrighted to Iowa today.
New number is 34…
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: davep
Date: November 11, 2022, 3:40 pm
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--- Quote from: DUSTY link ---
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> I normally have no issue with Japanese position players other
than the fact that their power doesnt live up to the hype.
>
> My issue is with the pitchers who come over here after they've
been rode like a rented mule.
>
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Corey is an antimuleite.
#Post#: 463178--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: Reb
Date: November 11, 2022, 4:15 pm
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--- Quote from: Dave23 link ---
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> Esteban Quiroz and Jared Young were outrighted to Iowa today.
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> New number is 34…
>
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Cubs haven’t formally made a move with Heyward yet, so roster is
at 35, according to AZ Phil.
Vizcaino still on roster too.
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: craig
Date: November 11, 2022, 4:43 pm
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Still lots of relatively easy moves to make.
I'd hate to get too daring and expose some pitching prospect
that blossoms, in order to protect McKinstry or Uelman or Rucker
or whomever.
I wonder too how eager some of those fringy guys are to have
their feelings hurt and to look elsewhere. For example, suppose
a guy like McKinstry gets derostered, to make room for Devers or
Jensen or Franklin or something like that. Suppose you tell
him, "Dude, we'd like to have you come back, we'll have a bundle
of 60-man roster spots that will open, and we still think you've
got a really fair chance to win a big-league spot in camp".
Would a guy like that be ticked off that he got derostered, and
say no way I'm signing a non-roster deal? Or would he say,
"yeah, I get that. And I see the opportunity here. Yes, I
think this will be a good opportunity place for me, where do I
sign?"
#Post#: 463180--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: JeffH
Date: November 11, 2022, 4:47 pm
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Craig, before that conversation takes place, there's the risk of
a player being chosen on a waiver claim.
#Post#: 463186--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: craig
Date: November 11, 2022, 5:56 pm
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Yeah, of course.
If they deroster all nine of Rivas, McKinstry, Ortega, Uelman,
Rucker, Roberts, Martinez, Marquez, Leiter, there's a decent
chance that a couple of those guys might get claimed, at least
for a few weeks.
But I'm guessing a lot of those guys won't get claimed?
Everybody else has their own pitch labs and their own prospects
with some ceiling that they want to protect too, I think. So
*IF* you take the risk and expose McKinstry or Uelman or
whomever, and *if* they can claimed, that's kinda the way it
goes. If you have to get by and need to replace a McKinstry,
that's not the end of the world and isn't the most difficult
task to accomplish.
I guess I was just wondering whether a guy who goes unclaimed
would be MORE likely to stick with an organization that
de-rostered him, but where he knows they'll have a scad of
60-man spots opening up in spring; or whether he'd be LESS
likely to stay?
Of the guys from yesterday, Breault is one I'd like to bring
back on a non-roster deal. We're not deep in lefties.
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: Deeg
Date: November 11, 2022, 6:11 pm
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Wouldn’t risk losing a younger player with potential to roster
McKinstry. He’s been bad at every turn and even with his decent
last month was bad for us. Offensive peripherals are bad,
topline numbers are bad. If someone claims him you can live
with that.
#Post#: 463191--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: JeffH
Date: November 11, 2022, 6:33 pm
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Deeg, it's less about McKinstry himself than it is that someone
is going to be a backup infielder on the 26-man roster. If you
lose McKinstry, that's fine, but you're going to need that
40-man roster spot for the backup infielder.
Always remember that the 26-man roster has to be filled out with
somebody and that a maximum of 14 players can be on optional
assignment at any one time.
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: Deeg
Date: November 11, 2022, 8:35 pm
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--- Quote from: JeffH link ---
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> Deeg, it's less about McKinstry himself than it is that
someone is going to be a backup infielder on the 26-man roster.
If you lose McKinstry, that's fine, but you're going to need
that 40-man roster spot for the backup infielder.
>
> Always remember that the 26-man roster has to be filled out
with somebody and that a maximum of 14 players can be on
optional assignment at any one time.
>
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I get that Jeff, but I think we can do better. Hoerner’s
ability to play either middle IF position means a lot,
especially if we add a true SS and keep Madrigal. Morel can
play all across the infield at least adequately, if not well. I
don’t think McKinstry is worthy of either a 40 and 26-man roster
spot. If no one grabs him (which I think is likely) you stash
him at Iowa and re-add him later if he’s needed.
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