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#Post#: 463058--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: craig
Date: November 8, 2022, 2:49 pm
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Thanks Jeff. I didn't realize there was rule on that.
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: craig
Date: November 8, 2022, 6:59 pm
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--- Quote from: JR link ---
>
> At some point, don't you have too many voices in the
clubhouse? Seriously three hitting coaches telling you what to
do? I remember Joe Maddon mentioning after he got fired by the
Angels how hitters are dealing with too much information
overload. ...
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4 hitting coaches, JR, not 3. :). Yeah, I'd think you'd have to
be disciplined about that. Still, I'm OK to trust that they
know what they're doing. Several favorite Bible verses speak to
the value of many counselors. ("Without counsel plans fail, but
with many advisers they succeed"; "in an abundance of counselors
there is safety"; "by wise guidance you can wage your war, and
in abundance of counselors there is victory."). Being able to
bounce ideas, and bounce analysis together between several smart
guys, I think that could be helpful? And the "infrastructure"
boss would need to determine who communicates to an individual
hitter and that they aren't sending contradictory ideas. I
imagine part of it, too, is having individual connections with
individual hitters? Maybe Cabreja has linguistic skills, and
cultural feel too, to relate well to some of the Latin kids, or
something?
But yeah, for sure Kelly would need make sure input is
consistent, and that it isn't excessive. Hope it helps some
guys to achieve their best!
On the pitching side, they've got at least four guys. Hottovy
is head pitching coach. Young is "bullpen coach". Moskos is
assistant pitching coach. Hultzen is "pitching strategist".
Does that imply that Young focuses on relievers, and Moskos
maybe starters, with Hottovy overarching both? I have no idea.
I don't think I've heard as many references to "infrastructure"
in all of my life as I have from Cubs within the last two years.
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: CurtOne
Date: November 8, 2022, 7:28 pm
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So, Craig, you want to fire the coaches and Hite a theologian?
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: Tuffy
Date: November 9, 2022, 4:19 am
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As recently as the '90s, there were only five or six coaches:
two on the bases (who might specialize in infield or baserunning
or whatever), a hitting instructor, and a pitching coach. There
would be a bullpen catcher but he wasn't often considered a
coach. It feels like there should be more bullpen catchers;
Japanese teams have five or six, so that lots of pitchers can
warm up together during practice.
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: craig
Date: November 9, 2022, 8:45 am
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HTML https://theathletic.com/3774283/2022/11/08/willson-contreras-free-agency-return-cubs/?source=dailyemail&campaign=601983https://theathletic.com/3774283/2022/11/08/willson-contreras-free-agency-return-cubs/?source=dailyemail&campaign=601983
Sharma with yet another Contreras article. Seems to support the
idea that Contreras for Urquidy had been thought to be a deal
and an offer, and nobody else was contending to outbid that.
Really strange situation.
Sharma repeats his thing: "It’s not simply about defense and
goes well beyond framing; catchers like Gomes get tremendously
positive feedback for their work with pitchers in between games
and their ability to prepare and game plan for the opponent...."
I still admit some mixed feelings on that. We've got a manager
and 14 coaches. I wonder what the pros and cons would be of
having a catcher who can hit, run, catch, and throw; who works
super hard and is a high energy guy; and hire three or four
game-planning coaches to game plan for opponents between games?
Shama writes about what if Contreras accepted the qualifying
offer, which Shama considers strongly improbable: "Perhaps
Contreras would solely be used as a designated hitter and first
baseman. Maybe there’s a scenario where he’s the personal
catcher for one starter and two other catchers split the rest of
the time. Or perhaps it’s this past season’s role, splitting
time with Yan Gomes while using the DH to keep his legs fresh."
So he's so down on Contreras the game-planner that he's barely
willing to let him catch at all, so he views Willson having the
2nd-catcher-DH role is only the 3rd unlikeliest option of all.
I love most of Shama's work. But it seems to me his
Willson-is-liability-as-catcher take has been relatively
extreme? Is it possible that in all sincerity, he's maybe a
little bit off on this player? I wonder if he's truly mirroring
how the Cubs decision-makers view things? Or whether he's taken
some comments from one or two contacts within the organization
and perhaps exaggerated them? Perhaps even within the
organization there might be a wide range of views, and his
source may be on the edge of management views? Who knows. Or
maybe he's right on the spot, and rightly or wrongly this is
exactly how Ross and Hoyer and Carter perceive things.
#Post#: 463087--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: guest405
Date: November 9, 2022, 9:41 am
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Carter Hawkins implied yesterday that Matt Mervis would get an
opportunity to be the 1st baseman in short order.
Now feel free to tell me I misinterpreted his comment.
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: craig
Date: November 9, 2022, 12:39 pm
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HTML https://www.cubsinsider.com/2022/11/09/cubs-gm-carter-hawkins-says-matt-mervis-has-earned-the-opportunity-at-1b/
link includes comments that Dusty mentioned.
#Post#: 463090--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: CUBluejays
Date: November 9, 2022, 1:57 pm
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Matt Hickey
@hickeymj
·
1h
We have .
@PJ_Mooney
and .
@sahadevsharma
saying the #Cubs will be deeply involved in the SS market and .
@JesseRogersESPN
saying they won't be
Cool
Jesse Rogers
@JesseRogersESPN
46m
I said they won’t be giving out 7 plus years. If it’s more
manageable — like 5 years or less — then yes.
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: Reb
Date: November 9, 2022, 3:11 pm
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Rogers and Sharma/Mooney not much different from one another.
Rogers says Cubs won’t go 7+ and Sharma/Mooney say Cubs unlikely
to go 8+ on Correa.
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
DIR By: davep
Date: November 9, 2022, 3:11 pm
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I hope that is true. I have had my fill of 7 and 8 year
contracts.
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