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#Post#: 457165--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hot Stove ‘22
DIR By: Deeg
Date: July 31, 2022, 8:00 pm
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--- Quote from: CUBluejays link ---
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> Is he though? He had a hot start to season and has been hot
again in the second half. The rest of the time he has been well
below league average.
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>
> OPS By Month
> Mar/April: 1.054
> May: .654
> June: .567
> July: .733 (1.015 second half)
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--- End Quote ---
Do only the bad months count, then?
#Post#: 457168--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hot Stove ‘22
DIR By: CUBluejays
Date: July 31, 2022, 8:49 pm
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It is 98 PA of good and 268 of really bad. He’s might be worth 1
fWAR if he gets enough playing time.
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Re: Hot Stove ‘22
DIR By: Deeg
Date: July 31, 2022, 9:21 pm
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Well, oddly enough they’ve given him 850 ABs over 21-22 in two
contending seasons. They clearly believe he’s modestly useful
compared to their other options.
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Re: Hot Stove ‘22
DIR By: JeffH
Date: July 31, 2022, 9:22 pm
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"Bad" baseball players help teams win ballgames every day of the
season. That's a quote.
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Re: Hot Stove ‘22
DIR By: Deeg
Date: July 31, 2022, 9:57 pm
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--- Quote from: JeffH link ---
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> "Bad" baseball players help teams win ballgames every day of
the season. That's a quote.
>
--- End Quote ---
Good ones help them win a lot more.
I don’t know if that was a reference to Hosmer specifically, and
I don’t know if he’s a bad baseball player. But the point is
the Padres have considered him useful enough to use him as a
regular while trying to compete. So maybe they’re not as
desperate to salary-dump him as some assume.
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Re: Hot Stove ‘22
DIR By: CUBluejays
Date: July 31, 2022, 10:53 pm
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Rosenthal’s recent article says the Padres kinda have the market
at a stand still.
They are talking with
Nationals-about Soto.
A’s- Montas/Murphy. The A’s have to be overwhelmed to trade
Murphy and a deal is more likely in the off season.
Cubs- Happ/Contreras +/- Robertson and Hosmer. Rosenthal thinks
he still needs to move his money.
Mets might trade with Red Sox if Contreras goes somewhere else.
He thinks Prellar fears the Dodgers will go after Soto if he
makes a move first, so he expects it to go the deadline unless
the Nationals say no trade.
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Re: Hot Stove ‘22
DIR By: CUBluejays
Date: July 31, 2022, 11:09 pm
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--- Quote from: Deeg link ---
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> Well, oddly enough they’ve given him 850 ABs over 21-22 in two
contending seasons. They clearly believe he’s modestly useful
compared to their other options.
>
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He’s produced 0.4 fWAR as a Padre. Sometimes a contract plays
instead of production.
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Re: Hot Stove ‘22
DIR By: ticohans
Date: August 1, 2022, 12:00 am
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Heyward waves hello
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Re: Hot Stove ‘22
DIR By: Reb
Date: August 1, 2022, 12:24 am
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--- Quote from: CUBluejays link ---
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> He’s produced 0.4 fWAR as a Padre. Sometimes a contract
plays instead of production.
>
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A few things about Hosmer.
1. He does better under bWAR (3.9 as a Padre)
2. He plays in the NL park that depresses offense more than any
NL park from 2020-22 (Statcast)
3. His wRC+ in last three seasons is above average: 109-102-129
(see 2 above)
4. His bWAR in 2022 is 1.3, so he’s actually on a pace to be an
average regular in 2022 according to bWAR.
As a Cub, he would be an upgrade at 1B given the putrid
performance of 2022 Cubs 1B. Obviously, he isn’t worth close to
his contract but likely he would put up better offensive numbers
going from Petco to Wrigley. Also obviously, you better get very
nice player(s) back to take on that performance-to-contract guy.
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Re: Hot Stove ‘22
DIR By: Deeg
Date: August 1, 2022, 12:36 am
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--- Quote from: ticohans link ---
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> Heyward waves hello
>
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One team is tanking and the other is trying to win. Hardly
analogous.
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