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Re: Cubs Draft 2022
DIR By: Deeg
Date: July 17, 2022, 11:07 pm
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--- Quote from: CUBluejays link ---
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> Top 10 round picks usually have an agreed upon price before
the pick is made and very rarely don�t sign.
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> If you drafted Parada or Lee at 7 you probably don�t get
Ferris at 47. The Cubs came away with 2 first round talents with
their top 2 picks. Both have a chance at being a #2-3 starter
in scouting terms, which is a 3-4 WAR player or an all-star
level pitcher.
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Everybody has a chance to be anybody. It's all about odds. If
the Cubs truly believed Lee (or Parada, for that matter) isn't
what the overwhelming majority of the scouting community thinks
he is, then I guess it makes sense. What they did was
effectively trade down in the draft like NBA teams do. Whether
it's smart in any specific case depends on the available
options.
For me, where the Cubs are now, when you're sitting at #7 you
take the BPA. I think that was Lee, who some scouts had going
at #1 and seems as close to a sure thing as anybody in this
draft.
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Re: Cubs Draft 202
DIR By: Reb
Date: July 18, 2022, 12:46 am
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Kind of figured that the first seven picks would not be the �Big
7� from the Mocks over past few weeks. Draft always seems to
have some surprises. This one no different. Just don�t know in
advance what the surprises will be.
Nobody expected the Horton pick of course. BA said Horton
pitched post-season like scouts saw him pitch in HS pre-TJ, so
the dramatic post-season improvement compared to regular season
not out of nowhere. Guessing that HS pedigree was a factor for
Cubs.
I get the Brooks Lee appeal, but BA noted he�s a body builder of
sorts and the bulk may affect his range as a pro as he ages,
plus he has an injury history. Still, everybody thinks he�ll hit
but maybe limited upside as solid regular rather than a star?
Also get appeal of a possible #2 SP exceeds that of Lee,
arguably.
Guessing that Horton at #10 slot money savings (compared to #7
slot) plus 5% overage will pay for almost all of the overslot
Ferris bonus.
Interesting that Jacob Berry, defense issues and all, went way
higher than age wunderkind Cam Collier. Maybe Collier didn�t
overly impress during brief stint at the Cape or maybe a guy who
mashes at top college level is more appealing.
Wouldn�t mind seeing Cubs take a slot value college pitcher in
3rd round, if possible. Go all in on pitching, these rounds.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2022
DIR By: Reb
Date: July 18, 2022, 1:01 am
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Bastian piece, with Kantrovitz remarks.
HTML https://www.mlb.com/news/cubs-take-cade-horton-with-no-7-overall-pick-in-mlb-draft
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Re: Cubs Draft 2022
DIR By: Deeg
Date: July 18, 2022, 6:00 am
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Some grades.
CBS:
7. Cubs: Cade Horton, RHP, Oklahoma
Horton had a phenomenal June for the Sooners, causing his stock
to shoot up after the publication of our top 30 rankings. Those
are the breaks sometimes. He has a big-time power arm, though
none of the scouts or evaluators who spoke to CBS Sports were
sold on him sticking in a rotation. The Cubs taking him this
early, then, is a steep gamble, albeit one that may end up
looking brilliant. Grade: C
BR:
Grade: C
Between Horton's limited collegiate success and the Cubs'
abysmal recent track record developing pitching, this is a tough
one to understand. It looks an awful lot like what the Kansas
City Royals did picking at No. 7 overall last year when they
reached for Frank Mozzicato to save money for later in the
draft, so stay tuned.
Sporting News:
7. Cubs � Cade Horton, RHP, Oklahoma
Grade: B
Horton struggled mightily through the first half of the Oklahoma
season, but he picked it up late and was as dynamic as anyone
during the Sooners' College World Series final run. His fastball
reaches the upper 90s and his slider is a filthy out-pitch. He
also offers a solid curveball and a serviceable changeup. The
Cubs are thinking that what he did in the College World Series
is the type of pitching prospect he'll be in the system. More
risk than most college arms taken this early, but plenty of
upside.
ESPN:
7. Chicago Cubs: Cade Horton, RHP, Oklahoma
Who is Horton? A late riser on draft boards, Cade Horton was
dominant on the mound during Oklahoma's College World Series run
capped by a MCWS final-record 13-strikeout outing against
eventual champion Ole Miss in Omaha. Before being sidelined due
to Tommy John surgery, Horton arrived at Oklahoma a local
product of Norman High as one of the nation's most heralded
recruits in 2020 as a two-way star on the diamond and also as a
quarterback.
Why the Cubs took him here: The view of Horton changed
dramatically for the better after his strong postseason
performance for the Sooners. Teams don't usually draft for need,
but it's also true the Cubs system is stronger in position
player prospects and weaker in starting pitching prospects
(especially in the upper levels). It appears the Cubs were
focused on getting a pitcher. -- Schoenfield
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Re: Cubs Draft 2022
DIR By: JeffH
Date: July 18, 2022, 7:24 am
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Anybody else see a little Kerry Wood in Horton's delivery?
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Re: Cubs Draft 2022
DIR By: Dave23
Date: July 18, 2022, 7:40 am
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Definitely
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Re: Cubs Draft 2022
DIR By: Ron
Date: July 18, 2022, 8:05 am
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--- Quote from: Reb link ---
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> Bastian piece, with Kantrovitz remarks.
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HTML https://www.mlb.com/news/cubs-take-cade-horton-with-no-7-overall-pick-in-mlb-draft
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Thanks for the link.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2022
DIR By: Dave23
Date: July 18, 2022, 8:37 am
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Just saw Rich Harden mentioned as a comp, and that�s a pretty
good one as well�peak Harden was really good�
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Re: Cubs Draft 2022
DIR By: JeffH
Date: July 18, 2022, 8:44 am
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I don't think Horton has the Harden changeup.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2022
DIR By: Reb
Date: July 18, 2022, 9:14 am
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Always a useful site:
HTML https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R9hzhGo0Q_29g2bfa2yQwHYqNN799JzkCP7HyK-XCKY/htmlview#
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